From: joedees@bellsouth.net
Date: Wed 07 May 2003 - 19:30:56 GMT
> > From: "Wade T. Smith" <wade.t.smith@verizon.net>
> > Subject: Re: memetics-digest V1 #1333
> >
> > On Tuesday, May 6, 2003, at 04:17 AM, Dace wrote:
> >
> > > How can anyone remember something that never happened?
> >
> > It's called 'false memory' whether or not you want to include the
> > 'syndrome', and, yes, people can very well remember things that
> > never happened and couldn't have happened.
>
> Semantics.
>
That's where meaning and significance are found.
>
> > Memory is a dynamic process of the mind, not just a library of
> > experiences, but one of the toolkits of the imagination.
>
> Yes, and the fact that memeories are not statically stored, either in
> genes or in brains, strongly suggests that the whole foundation of
> reductionist theory is rotten.
>
And woo-woo fields are healthy as hell, right? (snicker!)
>
> > What you _were_ heralding, remember it or not, was the concept of
> > 'morphic fields', which are part of Sheldrake's lunatic explanation
> > of nature.
>
> And I will continue to defend Sheldrake as long as other listmembers
> keep bringing him up. (The very first time I discussed Sheldrake on
> this list was after Scott brought him up. This pattern has continued
> right up to the present post.)
>
Cause Sheldrake's Dace's MAN! His Messiah and Muse. The fulcrum
of his onlist existence.
> By the way, what makes you think Sheldrake is a lunatic? Please
> respond off-list, as this is not a Sheldrake discussion group.
> (Remember?)
>
All one has to do is read his works with a scientific, empirical and
critical eye. He makes Velikovsky seem reasonable.
>
> > - - Wade
> >
> > From: joedees@bellsouth.net
> >
> > > Participating in a
> > > conversation, particularly when the topic is brought up by another
> > > list member, is not the same as inflicting one's private
> > > obsessions onto the list.
> > >
> > I do believe that Wade, and many others, will readily attest to
> > Dace's past obsessive flooding on the 'Morphic Field" quackery.
>
> Nope.
>
> > History cannot be revisionistically rewritten by one in the face of
> > many remembering others.
>
> True. Which is why I trust the judgment of list members to make up
> their own minds.
>
And they have, concerning Sheldrakean phantasies.
>
> > > > And very few manuscripts here ARE solicited; I
> > > > simply reposted it to demonstrate that I had more than
> > > > anticipated the line of argument which Dace proferred, and that
> > > > perhaps he was even inspired to it by my paper, the substance of
> > > > which I cannot fail to notice that Dace fails to comment upon.
> > >
> > > You're a case study, Joe. Keep up the good work!
> > >
> > As always: no answer.
>
> Because you're beyond the pale, Joe. Just look at your statement
> above. What happened was that Keith offered his observation that
> communism was much like a religion. This reminded of something
> Toynbee said, so I dug it up. Then you come along with this truly
> bizarre revision of events. It just goes to show that your brain runs
> on hallucination instead of glucose, like the rest of us.
>
Dace STILL will not comment upon my paper, because to disparage it
would be to disparage the remarks he made which prompted my
reposting of it, since they resemble each other so much, and he cannot
bear to praise it, because it is mine. Those who can't produce original
work either criticize or embrace the work of others - Dace's eternal
modus operandus.
>
> > One of the reasons that Dace disparages the
> > work of others must be jealousy,
>
> According to the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders
> (Fourth Edition), the belief that other people are jealous of you is a
> symptom of narcissistic personality disorder. This is odd, because I
> had you pegged with antisocial personality disorder. Well, live and
> learn. Of course, what you really need is six months alone with a
> therapist, so you can get an accurate diagnosis.
>
What Dace needs to do is furnish his psychological credentials, instead
of indulging in a dilettantish perusal of psychology, as many such as he
do who know something is wrong with their neuronal firing patterns, but
can't quite grok what it is. Might I suggest, considering his propensity to
slavishly endorse pseudoscientific claptrap, that a stiff regimen of
antipsychotics might benefit him? I sincerely doubt if talk therapy would
help his case; this list has long tried that route with him with a notable
lack of success.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ted
>
>
>
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