Other roots of memetics

From: Keith Henson (hkhenson@rogers.com)
Date: Sun 30 Mar 2003 - 20:15:09 GMT

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    A while ago I subscribed to the psychohistory list to see what it was about. The list seems mostly to be about examining the effects of personal history, particularly those of childhood abuse, to understand the current psychological traits of people. I.e., it is only remotely related to memetics. There is another meaning to the word, established by Isaac Asimov in his Foundation novels dating from the early 1940s.

    Asimov's psychohistory was predictive, postulating that the future could be predicted and guided to some extent based on a mathematical understanding of social trends. Robert Heinlein, calling it "psychodynamics" also developed the theme of predicting social movements in Methuselah's Children, (1941) and Revolt in 2100 (1952). The story elements from these two famous SF authors are about future disciplines fairly close to the core of memetics. From Methuselah's Children:

          "Schultz looked at her soberly and smoothed his kilt. "You're right, Eve. I could easily be wrong again. That's the trouble with psychology; it is a subject so terribly complex, so many unknowns, such involved relationships, that our best efforts sometimes look silly in the bleak light of later facts." He stood up again, faced the others, and again spoke with flat authority. "But I am not making a long-range prediction this time; I am talking about facts, no guesses, not wishful thinking-and with those facts a prediction so short-range that it is like predicting that an egg will break when you see it already on its way to the floor. But Eve is right . . . as far as she went. Individuals are kind and decent . . . as individuals and to other individuals. Eve is in no danger from her neighbors and friends, and I am in no danger from mine. But she is in danger from my neighbors and friends -and I from hers.

          "Mass psychology is not simply a summation of individual psychologies; that is a prime theorem of social psychodynamics -not just my opinion; no exception has ever been found to this theorem. It is the social mass-action rule, the mob-hysteria law, known and used by military, political, and religious leaders, by advertising men and prophets and propagandists, by rabble rousers and actors and gang leaders, for generations before it was formulated in mathematical symbols. It works. It is working now."

    [Last paragraph break added.]

    The real study of memetics offers models and mathematical tools lifted from genetics and epidemiology that describe the growth and decline of social movements and it offers a useful tool from modern Darwinianism of considering a meme from the meme's "viewpoint." Unfortunately memetics fails to provide understanding of *why* some social trends develop large followings and others don't.

    Evolutionary psychology (which grew out of the same background as sociobiology) may provide the insight memetics needs to understand and model human the human psychological traits driving the spread of memes, including those which lead to wars and similar social unrest. This *might* lead to predictive "psychohistory" or "psychodynamics" of the kind envisioned by Asimov and Heinlein.

    As background, humans (like any other animal without predators) have always populated the world to the ecological limit. The psychological response that seems to have been evolved in the survivors over millions of years when the environment's carrying capacity was exceeded (or perceived to be exceeded) is for the tribes to find some reason for the males to fight with neighboring tribes until the population was reduced, or the rains come back and raise the carrying capacity. (The same effect happened as farmers pushed hunter/gatherers off potential farming lands the world over.)

    This rough model would therefore predict meme "driven" wars or similar forms of social unrest in times and places where the income per capita is falling. (Where per capita income is psychologically mapped to the fruits of hunting and gathering.) The theory does not predict *what* memes will arise, only that socially disrupting memes will become prevalent. An obvious example would be Germany in the late 1920s. The relative lack of wars among the advanced countries of the world in the last 50 years could be seen as an effect of technology increasing the supply of food and other essentials faster than the relatively slow population growth in those regions.

    The convulsive mass killings between the Hutu and the Tutsi may have had such a population/economic lead up. Anyone have data?

    As a prediction based on this model, wars should decline after a plague has killed a substantial fraction of the population (leaving the rest better off). Anyone have data about the rate of European wars in the generation after the plague of 1348-49?

    On a cautionary (predictive?) note, the per capita annual income for Saudi Arabia has fallen from $28,000 to $7,000 in the last generation.

    Keith Henson

    Two longish snippets from Methuselah's Children

    "That rising hate has now swelled into a flood which threatens the welfare and even the lives of all our revealed brethren . . . and which is potentially as dangerous to the rest of us. The danger is very great and very pressing." He sat down abruptly.

    They took it calmly, with the unhurried habit of years. Presently a female delegate stood up. "Eve Barstow, for the Cooper Family. Ralph Schultz, I am a hundred and nineteen years old, older, I believe, than you are. I do not have your talent for mathematics or human behavior but I have known a lot of people. Human beings are inherently good and gentle and kind. Oh, they have their weaknesses but most of them are decent enough if you give them half a chance. I cannot believe that they would hate me and destroy me simply because I have lived a long time. What have you to go on? You admit one mistake-why not two?"

    Schultz looked at her soberly and smoothed his kilt. "You're right, Eve. I could easily be wrong again. That's the trouble with psychology; it is a subject so terribly complex, so many unknowns, such involved relationships, that our best efforts sometimes look silly in the bleak light of later facts." He stood up again, faced the others, and again spoke with flat authority. "But I am not making a long-range prediction this time; I am talking about facts, no guesses, not wishful thinking-and with those facts a prediction so short-range that it is like predicting that an egg will break when you see it already on its way to the floor. But Eve is right . .
    . as far as she went. Individuals are kind and decent . . . as individuals and to other individuals. Eve is in no danger from her neighbors and friends, and I am in no danger from mine. But she is in danger from my neighbors and friends -and I from hers. Mass psychology is not simply a summation of individual psychologies; that is a prime theorem of social psychodynamics -not just my opinion; no exception has ever been found to this theorem. It is the social mass-action rule, the mob-hysteria law, known and used by military, political, and religious leaders, by advertising men and prophets and propagandists, by rabble rousers and actors and gang leaders, for generations before it was formulated in mathematical symbols. It works. It is working now.

    "My colleagues and I began to suspect that a mob-hysteria trend was building up against us several years ago. We did not bring our suspicions to the council for action because we could not prove anything. What we observed then could have been simply the mutterings of the crackpot minority present in even the healthiest society. The trend was at first so minor that we could not be sure it existed, for all social trends are intermixed with other social trends, snarled together like a plate of spaghetti-worse than that, for it takes an abstract topological space of many dimensions (ten or twelve are not uncommon and hardly adequate) to describe mathematically the interplay of social forces. I cannot overemphasize the complexity of the problem.

    "So we waited and worried and tried statistical sampling, setting up our statistical universes with great care.

    "By the time we were sure, it was almost too late. Socio-psychological trends grow or die by a 'yeast growth' law, a complex power law. We continued to hope that other favorable factors would reverse the trend-Nelson's work in symbiotics, our own contributions to geriatrics, the great public interest in the opening of the Jovian satellites to immigration. Any major break-through offering longer life, and greater hope to the short-lived could end the smouldering resentment against us.

    "Instead the smouldering has burst into flame, into an uncontrolled forest fire. As nearly as we can measure it, the rate has doubled in the past thirty-seven days and the rate itself is accelerated. I can't guess how far or how fast it will go-and that's why we asked for this emergency session. Because we can expect trouble at any moment." He sat down hard, looking tired.

    Eve did not argue with him again and no one else argued with him at all; not only was Ralph Schultz considered expert in his own field but also every one of them, each from his own viewpoint, had seen the grosser aspects of the trend building up against their revealed kin. But, while the acceptance of the problem was unanimous, there were as many opinions about what to do about it as there were people present. Lazarus let the discussion muddle along for two hours before he held up a hand. "We aren't getting anywhere," he stated, "and it looks like we won't get anywhere tonight. Let's take an over-all look at it, hitting just the high spots:

    [later in the book after the whole 100,000 of them have escaped on a star ship . . .]

    "Eve," said Zaccur Barstow "I agree with your opinion of Ford and I myself would be glad to have him as our executive. But how about all of the others? To the Families-everyone except ourselves here present-Mr. Administrator Ford symbolizes the persecution they have suffered. I think that makes him an impossible candidate."

    Eve was gently stubborn. "I don't think so. We've already agreed that we will have to work up a campaign to explain away a lot of embarrassing facts about the last few days. Why don't we do it thoroughly and convince them that Ford is a martyr who sacrificed himself to save them? He is, you know."

    "Mmm . . . yes, he is. He didn't sacrifice himself primarily on our account, but there is no doubt in my mind that his personal sacrifice saved us. But whether or not we can convince the others, convince them strongly enough that they will accept him and take orders from him . . . when he is now a sort of personal devil to them-well, I just don't know. I think we need expert advice. How about it, Ralph? Could it be done?'

    Ralph Schultz hesitated. "The truth of a proposition has little or nothing to do with its psychodynamics. The notion that 'truth will prevail' is merely a pious wish; history doesn't show it. The fact that Ford really is a martyr to whom we owe gratitude is irrelevant to the purely technical question you put to me." He stopped to think. "But the proposition per se has certain sentimentally dramatic aspects which lend it to propaganda manipulation, even in the face of the currently accepted strong counterproposition. Yes . . . yes, I think it could be sold."

    "How long would it take you to put it over?"

    "Mmm . . . the social space involved is both 'tight' and 'hot' in the jargon we use; I should be able to get a high positive 'k' factor on the chain reaction-if it works at all. But it's an unsurveyed field and I don't know what spontaneous rumors are running around the ship. If you decide to do this, I'll want to prepare some rumors before we adjourn, rumors to repair Ford's reputation-then about twelve hours from now I can release another one that Ford is actually aboard. Because he intended from the first to throw his lot in with us."

    "Ub, I hardly think he did, Ralph." -

    "Are you sure, Zaccur?"

    "No, but- Well . . .

    "You see? The truth about his original intentions is a secret between him - and his God. You don't know and neither do I. But the dynamics of the proposition are a separate matter. Zaccur, by the time my rumor gets back to you three or four times, even you will begin to wonder." The psychometrician paused to stare at nothing while he consulted an intuition refined by almost a century of mathematical study of human behavior. "Yes, it will work. If you all want to do it, you will be able to make a public announcement inside of twenty-four hours."

    "I so move!" someone called out.

    ***************

    If someone has time to locate quotes and post about psychohistory from the Foundation novels, I would appreciate it.

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