RE: Dennett article on post-modernism

From: Lawrence DeBivort (debivort@umd5.umd.edu)
Date: Tue 18 Mar 2003 - 00:07:13 GMT

  • Next message: Keith Henson: "Re: Dennett article on post-modernism"

    Great story Keith -- may I use it on another list? If so, with or without your name?

    Cheers, Lawry

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    > From: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk [mailto:fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk]On Behalf
    > Of Grant Callaghan
    > Sent: Mon, March 17, 2003 12:49 PM
    > To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
    > Subject: Re: Dennett article on post-modernism
    >
    >
    > Keith Henson
    >
    > PS. one of the best stories I know about in relation to battered wives
    > happened between this Apache (Native American) I knew and his
    > Russian wife.
    > (This was at least 40 years ago.) After they had been married a
    > while, he
    > beat her up just because it was traditional. She waited till he went to
    > sleep and then banged him on the head with a cast iron frying pan and
    > proceeded to bash him with the edge of the pan a good deal worse
    > than he had
    > beaten her. Next morning when he woke up--very painfully--she handed him
    > the pan and told him it was his turn, but remember he had to
    > sleep. Far as
    > I know, he never hit her again. :-)
    >
    >
    > Grant
    >
    > Amazing! My grandmother told me that same story, only it was about
    > different people. I was going to use it in the book of family
    > history I'm
    > writing. She grew up in Indian territory along the Texas-Oklahoma border.
    >
    > The capture of men is just as common, historically, as the
    > capture of women.
    > The primary difference is that while the women were taken to
    > become wives,
    > the men were taken to become slaves or drafted into the army of their
    > captors. In either case it was adapt or die. I suspect it is
    > also at root
    > of the hated mother-in-law syndrome because in most societies the
    > mom-in-law
    > was in charge of teaching the new bride the rules and customs of the new
    > tribe and discipline was often very strict.
    >
    >
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