From: Bruce Howlett (brucehowlett@northnet.com.au)
Date: Sun 09 Mar 2003 - 23:05:56 GMT
Ok Jeremy. Now that you've signed off, I can get the last word in ;-)
My point was two-fold. Firstly, that the likely source of memes transmitted through movie media were in fact the result of the culture to which the movie makers belong. And secondly, if manipulation is attempted, as you say in the case of 9/11, it does not mean that a meme event is achieved.
Regards,
Bruce Howlett
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From: Jeremy Bradley
To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 9:22 AM
Subject: Re: Memes For Peace
At 08:32 AM 10/03/03 +1100, Bruce wrote:
Well maybe. This could be a chicken and egg argument. Do you think that
the producers and script writers deliberately sat down and decided to try
to influence the rest of the world? Or did the biases and beliefs (memes)
held by those people just flow through into the movie?
Regards,
Bruce Howlett
For me Bruce, the memetic codification of culture enables perceptions of
appropriacy within that culture. It is therefore not so much a situation of
writers and producers plotting to dominate the world of thought as them
doing what they do 'normally'.
Though, that said, it is common knowledge that Washington called in the top
producers and 'informed them' of how '9 11' was to be portrayed in movies.
That is the 'engineering' part of memetic codification.
Sorry all, that will have to suffice from me for now as I'm too busy to
play right now (stop smiling Joe)
Jeremy
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