Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id RAA29202 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Mon, 5 Jun 2000 17:16:21 +0100 Message-ID: <2D1C159B783DD211808A006008062D31017458A9@inchna.stir.ac.uk> From: Vincent Campbell <v.p.campbell@stir.ac.uk> To: "'memetics@mmu.ac.uk'" <memetics@mmu.ac.uk> Subject: RE: What is it good for? Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 17:14:22 +0100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
Haven't you ever seen a religious conversion? Epiphanies are known.
As to me, I'm still a newcomer to the profession of academia (I have just
had a book proposal about journalism accepted, which will be my first book),
which is why I ask for further insight into your perspective on these
issues.
My discipline, as I've said is media studies, I work in a film and media
studies department, teaching courses on media theory/history, film,
journalism studies and political communication (undergrad and postgrad).
My publications record is small at the moment (I finished my PhD last year),
and if anyone's interested I did some research into television documentary
and pseudo-science, which has appeared in the Media Education Journal
(Scotland), and as a chapter in a forthcoming book on documentary.
Vincent
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> From: Chuck
> Reply To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
> Sent: Monday, June 5, 2000 10:40 am
> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
> Subject: Re: What is it good for?
>
>
>
> Vincent Campbell wrote:
>
> > > You don't seem to be persuading anybody of your position,
> > >
> > > How do you know that? You yourself confess that you don't how to
> assess
> > > the
> > > effect of the media on people, so why do you think you got this one
> right?
> > >
> > Touche.
> >
> > I'd make a distinction, to some extent between media that allow for
> > interaction, like e-mail, and those that allow little or none (TV, the
> > press, films etc.). One of the interesting things is that very few
> media
> > researchers study things like e-mail, or telephone use as media that
> have
> > effects. With convergence the gap between media studies and
> > telecommunications work is going to have to close.
> >
> > I haven't seen anybody going 'My god you're right, this memetics stuff
> is
> > rubbish and a total waste of time!'
>
> Of course not. People usually don't change that way, especially when they
> have
> investments. In fact, very often when the make the change, they won't even
> see
> it happening. They get sudden amnesia about how they used to think!
>
> >
> >
> > Any of your references in the interest of furthering knowledge?
> >
>
> I presume you mean my publishing record. I have articles out there through
> the
> years on various subjects. The common thread to most of it is sexuality.
> Frankly, they aren't worth reading because they were originally done from
> a
> purely cultural perspective -- which is entirely too narrow to understand
> much
> of anything. I haven't published anything I would call significant since I
> have
> discovered sociobiology around 1987 while I was at the same time trading
> with
> the Brazilian indians. I am working on a book tentatively titled "Sex,
> Technology, and Economy in American History." Unlike Richard Brodie, I
> have had
> to work at finding the pop angle to my book. It seems to get right up to
> the
> very top of the editorial board before they realize there is no
> preexisting
> marketing niche. My "trouble" is that I can't stay bounded by the usual
> discplinary lines. But -- I may have found the balance in this current
> attempt.
>
> I am an odd person because I devote at least half my leisure time to the
> behavioral sciences even though I left academia a generation ago. So I
> never
> think up anything that doesn't either emerge from practical experience or
> get
> tested by it. That's why you can't find my perspective replicated in its
> entirety anywhere in academia. That is, besides the disciplinary lines
> they are
> bound to respect to some extent, they aren't involved in a wide range of
> practical experiences.
>
> And so, that said, who are you?
>
>
>
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