Re: memetics-digest V1 #1302

From: joedees@bellsouth.net
Date: Wed 05 Mar 2003 - 19:20:36 GMT

  • Next message: Wade T. Smith: "Re: memetics-digest V1 #1302"

    >
    > On Wednesday, March 5, 2003, at 01:18 PM, memetics-digest wrote:
    >
    > > This argument is kinda like saying that unless exact genetic
    > > replication
    > > occurs, that the theory of evolution is flawed.
    >
    > Kinda like, perhaps. Mostly like, no way.
    >
    > > But it is precisely the
    > > natural selection between natural occurring deviances that allows
    > > for evolution to occur.
    >
    > No argument, but, hmmm, we can't duplicate the conditions that this
    > natural selection occured within, can we? Nope, that time/space is
    > gone.
    >
    Which is exactly why a different environmental condition might select for a different mutation among the subsequent alternatives - in other wortds, evolution continues.
    >
    > > The difference is that, in memetics, those deviations
    > > (mutations) may be intended, and indeed engineered - as can be the
    > > selection.
    >
    > There is no _necessity_ that any of the 'mutations' in memetic
    > transfer (cultural transmission) be intended or engineered, and no one
    > is arguing that intention may _not_ be a part of cultural mechanisms.
    >
    That's right; intention cannot be a priori ruled out, and given out experience, it would seem counterintuitive to do so.
    >
    > But, yes, I am arguing that intention need not be communicated, at
    > all, and can be lost for all time.
    >
    But the communication of intention is not prohibited, and indeed, is quite memetically ubiquitous.
    >
    > - Wade
    >
    >
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