Re: memetics-digest V1 #1298

From: joedees@bellsouth.net
Date: Sun 02 Mar 2003 - 17:33:50 GMT

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    > On Sunday, March 2, 2003, at 11:36 AM, memetics-digest wrote:
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    > >> The memeinthemind model is dependent upon a ghost.
    > >>
    > > No, it is dependent upon a multiplicity of similar, but not
    > > identical, minds. The precise encodings of the memes do not have to
    > > be identical; rather they must, when interacting with differing yet
    > > similar cognitive gestalts, result in those gestalts producing
    > > recognizably similar behaviors (including bodily action and its
    > > subsets communication and artifact creation).
    >
    > There are many gestalts resulting in 'recognizably similar' behaviors,
    > just as one may stop a car using a disc brake or a drum brake. You are
    > saying that human brains are similar, but how does one come to any
    > conclusions about the information inside the individual brains,
    > regardless of the similar behaviors? And what does one do with similar
    > behaviors produced by gestalts from disparate brains? What is the
    > rationale for claiming similar behaviors have to stem from similar, if
    > not identical, gestalts?
    >
    > This imagined rationale is the central fallacy of the memeinmind
    > model.
    >
    I didn't say they HAD to, I said they DID. Conceivably, a disc brake space alien could master english, even though it would assimilate it into its neural architectonics, or what passed for them, very differently than a drum brake homo sapiens. However, fMRI, PET, MEG and other technologies conclusively demonstrate that our material substrate brains are not only modular, but that the modules have similar functions across human brains.
    >
    > - Wade
    >
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