Re: Sue Blackmore lecture Wednesday 5.15pm London

From: joedees@bellsouth.net
Date: Tue 18 Feb 2003 - 01:46:07 GMT

  • Next message: Keith Henson: "Re: Sue Blackmore lecture Wednesday 5.15pm London"

    > on 2/17/03 8:25 PM, joedees@bellsouth.net at joedees@bellsouth.net
    > wrote:
    >
    > [snip]
    >
    > >>
    > >> More empty boilerplate. You need to say why people prefer some
    > >> memes over others. To simply say that some memes spread further
    > >> because they're "better at getting into new human minds" doesn't
    > >> say anything very helpful. That's as useful as saying that water
    > >> runs down hill because it prefers being at the bottom of hills.
    > >>
    > > Actually, umm, no. Water is not a conscious agent as people are; it
    > > cannot prefer like people can.
    >
    > But you memeticists don't talk about people as agents. You're always
    > talking about memes as agents. In memetics human minds/brains are
    > just passive respositories of meme-food.
    >
    Not Grant, not me, and not many others. Memes are no more conscious or self-consciously aware than genes are, but people are. We choose which memes to accept and which to reject based upon a number of factors, including our personality dispositions and ourr personal histories, but many of our choices are made after due reflection and consideration, and a further search for information.
    >
    > Bill B
    >
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