From: Van oost Kenneth (kennethvanoost@belgacom.net)
Date: Sun 16 Feb 2003 - 15:46:08 GMT
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From: "Grant Callaghan" <grantc4@hotmail.com>
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> These uses, too, changed the environment of both man and meme. But what
> created the meme was a man with a problem and the search for a way to
solve
> it. It was not a meme in search of a man to use it.
Maybe I am sttill seeing things Grant that aren 't really there, but ever
before man
was able to solve an and any problem he had to have some perpsective about
things.
I know I am stepping out on holy ground here, but before he had any '
previous '
meme inside his tiny head there had to be some neural connection_ call it a
pre-
meme... call it pre- memory....
I don 't see how it is possible that man had all the previous memes of his
culture
made avaible to him, if there were not already pre- memes inside his head
making
it possible that he thought about things in the first place !
For to think about solving a problem you have to have some neural network at
your disposal to do so. If you argue, and I don 't see you 're not, that
this can be
achieved without any neural network already in place, and thus already '
memes'
must be there, than you leave me standing in the dark.
For you to have to ability to blend you have to have atleast two, ( opponent
!?)
ideas_ for early man to have his ever first thought he had to have atleast
two
ideas_ two memes, one of which was a problem and the second a possible
solution
...one he tried, with trial and error no doubt!
How can you exclude that atleast two neural dispositions, ( two memes !?)
were not trying to be connected to eachother and thus formed the ever first
idea ( memeplex) and thus ' searched a man ' to use it !?
Maybe not that clear, but I do hope you get my drift....
Show me the light !
Kenneth
> When a man approaches a problem, he usually has all of the previous memes
in
> his culture from which to choose a more effective way to get a job done.
If
> you look at the cognitive concept of blends, you can see that the way the
> brain operates is to take two existing ideas or memes and put them
together
> to creat a new combination. This new combination creates a new idea, or
> frame, which can then be further modified in the process of being used.
> man uses existing memes to solve new problems. The more memes we have
> available to us, the more options we have for the process of adapting to
our
> internal and external environments. The meme doesn't do anything other
than
> exist in the minds of men. Men borrow from each other to better their
> existence and this is what creates and perpetuates the meme pool.
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