Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id RAA19544 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Sat, 3 Jun 2000 17:30:40 +0100 Message-Id: <200006031628.MAA27867@mail5.lig.bellsouth.net> From: "Joe E. Dees" <joedees@bellsouth.net> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 11:31:42 -0500 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Primate Rights In-reply-to: <00060311574801.00520@faichney> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12b) Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
From: Robin Faichney <robin@faichney.demon.co.uk>
Organization: Reborn Technology
To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
Subject: Re: Primate Rights
Date sent: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 11:42:35 +0100
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> On Fri, 02 Jun 2000, Chuck wrote:
> >Robin Faichney wrote:
> >
> >> On Thu, 01 Jun 2000, Chuck wrote:
> >> >Robin Faichney wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Thu, 01 Jun 2000, Chuck wrote:
> >> >> >Before trying to reinvent the wheel on this one, why not read what other people
> >> >> >have said on the subject
> >> >>
> >> >> What subject's that, Chuck? (Not that I'd suspect you of equivocation!)
> >> >>
> >> >People's emotional reaction to different enviornments.
> >>
> >> OK, so help me out here, Chuck. You have, I presume, done that reading.
> >> So what's your take on biophilia?
> >
> >I don't have the time to dig out the bibliography now. My only point is that on most
> >topics discussed here there is a substantial body of literature that is quite helpful
> >and prevents having to reinvent the wheel.
>
> Precisely. And that information is what memetics is all about. Like it or not,
> it replicates, every time someone takes on board something they read in a book.
> And don't say "it doesn't replicate, it is replicated" because that's not a
> meaningful distinction. Exactly the same can be said about genes, but the
> active/passive dichotomy on which it is based is relative, not absolute -- a
> fact that many people have difficulty with. You are obviously one of them,
> and to remedy that, I don't think I can recommend anything better than to
> read Dennett's book Darwin's Dangerous Idea, and let these memes into your
> brain, to cross-fertilise those already there. It will help you understand
> the principles of genetics, as well as memetics, and what they have in
> common. Of course, if you're scared of being infected/converted you should
> maintain your memetic isolation. And here's a prediction: that's exactly
> what you will do, because you have too great an emotional investment in your
> current ideas to take any real risks with them.
>
> --
> Robin Faichney
>
As I recall, Robin, you have not been too open to accepting reading
suggestions yourself.
>
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