From: joedees@bellsouth.net
Date: Wed 11 Dec 2002 - 05:43:42 GMT
>
> In a message dated 12/9/2002 5:43:10 PM Central Standard Time,
> veridicus@outgun.com writes:
>
> [veridicus3] Don’t be ridiculous. So you are suggesting that the
> shoe bomber was motivated out of a deep love and compassion for his
> fellow human beings? Quite the opposite! The shoe bomber acted out of
> hate and ignorance, nothing less. Your statement reveals your profound
> ignorance of the values that most religion exists to propagate and
> exposes the severely stereotypical attitude that you approach the
> subject with.
>
> [Jake] I would suggest that the shoe bomber was motivated out of a
> deep love of an "Us" mirrored by a deep hatred of a "Them", as these
> things so often are. I would also suggest that basic human morality
> and decency is completely, let me repeat that, completely independent
> and prior to religion. Religion did not create these things, but
> rather parrot them back to people, things they intuitively know
> without religion anyway, and then claims that people need religion in
> order to have these things in the first place. We do not need religion
> to propagate values, but rather religion memetically has a need to
> steal values for itself in order for it to propagate. It is an amazing
> little piece of evolved parasitic memetics at work. Of course isnt'
> that what marketing in general is about? convincing people that they
> need things which they in fact probably do not?
>
> Love,
>
> -Jake
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