RE: Toward a new US-World dialogue

From: joedees@bellsouth.net
Date: Tue 10 Dec 2002 - 00:03:27 GMT

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    > >From: "Grant Callaghan" <grantc4@hotmail.com>
    > >Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
    > >To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
    > >Subject: RE: Toward a new US-World dialogue
    > >Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 08:36:11 -0800
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    > >>At 11:42 AM 8/12/02 -0800, you wrote:
    > >> >I tend to be pessimistic for the same reasons Wade mentions.
    > >> >Wade's
    > >>post
    > >> >raises an interesting question - why is it that it is only the
    > >> >common NEGATIVE that stands to unite large numbers of our species
    > >> >instead of a common good? Or is that the case?
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    > >> >I can only refer to my own experiences that when a group comes
    > >> >together united over a common interest, a hobby for instance, all
    > >> >is well while
    > >>the
    > >> >group remains small. Perhaps because they have all freely chosen
    > >> >each
    > >>other
    > >> >as members. But as new members join and the group grows larger,
    > >> >dissent
    > >>and
    > >> >disharmony also seem to increase. What was a unity of good now
    > >> >shatters into sects or cliques. However, let an enemy of that
    > >> >hobby appear and
    > >>the
    > >> >various cliques will unite as never before! My neighborhood is an
    > >> >equestrian area that is being shoved out by encroaching suburban
    > >> >developments. Horse people are notorious for their snobbery over
    > >> >their particular breed. But now that the ability to even ride or
    > >> >HAVE your
    > >>horse
    > >> >is being threatened, they've all united in a loud voice locally.
    > >> >People
    > >>who
    > >> >were not speaking to each other mere months ago are now fast
    > >> >allies.
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    > >> >On another point, IMHO religion is one HUGE blockade to achieving
    > >> >any
    > >>kind
    > >> >of mass unity, also. As long as people cling tightly to their
    > >>religiosity
    > >> >and identify their "self" with their religion, unless everyone
    > >> >adopts
    > >>that
    > >> >same religion, we're doomed to discord and disharmony.
    > >> >
    > >> >I just don't think the sheer numbers of humanity at this time
    > >> >bodes well
    > >>for
    > >> >harmony. The tribe is too large.
    > >> >
    > >> >Virginia
    > >> >
    > >> >Murrieta, CA
    > >> >
    > >>Good post Virginia
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    > >The last guy to try a new religion was L. Ron Hubbard and he doesn't
    > >seem to have made anyone happy with his Scientology.
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    > Would the Raelian's qualify as a religious movement? Church of the
    > Subgenius?
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    Discordians? Temple of the Sun? Soka Gakkai Nichiren Shoshu Buddhism? NeoPagan Eclectic Wicca?
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