From: joedees@bellsouth.net
Date: Mon 09 Dec 2002 - 18:20:01 GMT
> >
> >At 08:01 AM 8/12/02 -0800, you wrote:
> > >Non-dictatorial countries are governed by consensus. The new world
> > >government in the form of the U.N. is also reaching for consensus.
> > >If we fail to achieve it, we will become ungovernable and some will
> > >seek to
> >impose
> > >order rather than endure chaos or anarchy. We gain consensus
> > >through leadership rather than by imposition. If we don't learn to
> > >lead we will either have to follow or impose our will on others.
> > >Europe seems
> >inclined
> > >to follow. America is trying to lead but doesn't seem to know how
> > >to achieve a consensus. As a result we get accused of imposing our
> > >will on everyone else.
> > >
> > >Grant
> > >>
> >Hmm, but what of US vetos in the UN, are they democratic or
> >dictatorial? And is the UN run on consensus or majority? Jeremy
> >
> >
>
> I would say the best word for a US veto would be anarchic. While the
> UN is run on a majority vote (not counting the security council) they
> are reaching for consensus. The US is reaching for chaos, in my
> opinion.
>
The US is not the only Security Council member to possess veto power;
the rest of the permanent members, including Russia, China, France
and Great Britain, also possess it. And why? Because they have been,
post WW II, the five militarily strongest nations. Any military action
approved by the UN Security Council needs their support in order to
succeed. This provision prevents the UN from approving impotent
military actions that these five members would not support, therefore
weakening the UN; it also prevents a coalition of tiny nations with a
grudge from passing a military action against one of these five nations
by majority vote (now THAT would be TRULY chaotic).
>
> Grant
>
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