From: Grant Callaghan (grantc4@hotmail.com)
Date: Mon 09 Dec 2002 - 15:59:32 GMT
>
>At 10:44 AM 8/12/02 -0500, you wrote:
> >Interesting article...but yet again, one in which the "left" (meaning,
> >anything opposed to american hegemony) is lumped into the framework of
> >Marxism...as if there's nothing more to the Left than that. the
> >anti-globalization protests were nor orchestrated or dominated by
>marxists.
> >
> >it's great propaganda, though, to associate alternatives with something
>that
> >most americans have categorized as a failure. by constantly pushing the
>idea
> >that the Left = Marxism, it also makes the association that the Left =
> >Failure. yet the most creative thinking about alternative solutions to
> >various crises and situations comes out of the non-Marxist Left which is
> >mostly kept out of public discourse. further, by eliminating the
>possibility
> >of adaptive, as opposed to paradigmatically mechanistic, models for
>change,
> >the hegemony can ensure that no matter how detrimental its actions may
>be,
> >there is nothing that can be legitimately opposed to it in the public
> >population.
> >
>Hi A and B
>I am glad that you pointed this matter out as many people conflate the two.
>I am a socialist, but not a Marxist. Likewise I am on the 'left', but only
>because the ones who I disagree with most claim that they are 'right' (not
>to be confused with correct).
>The reason that I define myself as a socialist is that I believe that
>society should control the political world rather than capital. Marx wanted
>production, development and wealth but he wanted it distributed "to each
>according to their needs". Marxist socialism didn't work and the old USSR
>will be cleaning up the polution for a long, long time (maybe even longer
>than the capitalists).
>Oh BTW are you A, B or A and B, and are you positive or negative?
>;~)
>Jeremy
>
>PS: Just for the record, I don't think that capitalism will work either
>
>The leader who leads from faith works from a warped version of strength
>Wade T Smith
>
Jack Welch, on PBS yesterday, redefined the old marxist statement for
capitalism as "wealth shoud be distributed to each according to their
production."
Grant
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