RE: Why Europe is so Contrary

From: Steve Drew (sd014a6399@blueyonder.co.uk)
Date: Sat 07 Dec 2002 - 08:06:46 GMT

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    > Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 12:12:34 -0500
    > From: "Lawrence DeBivort" <debivort@umd5.umd.edu>
    > Subject: RE: Why Europe is so Contrary
    >
    > They are the heartbeat of this presidency. Reed is the ex-Christian
    > Coalition political genius; Rove a born-again zealot; Feith is deputy
    > secretary of defense (or some title like that) for policy; Wolfowitz was
    > dean of the School for Advanced International Studies, where he parked
    > himself while Clinton was in power, and is probably the most knowledgeable
    > of the lot, a protege of Paul Nitze; Richard Perle heads the non-paid
    > consultive group at the Defense Department -- they are the ones who launched
    > the anti-Saudi meme a couple of months ago. Perle and Wolfowitz are the
    > leaders of the 'might makes right' school of thinking. Why pay bazillions
    > for a military if we don't, bigosh, use 'em?
    >
    > I'm not sure all this is that interesting to folks outside the beltway, but
    > this is where the policy leverage is, and these are some of the folks who
    > have it.

    Wolfowitz is very relevant over this side of the pond, given his vociferous support for the inclusion of Turkey in the EU, despite the fact that fact that many In Europe can see Turkey and its political, social and religious structures have some way to go before they can reach the necessary qualifying criteria for the EU.

    Wolfowitz wants the sooner rather than later. Yhe airbases are required now
    :-)
    >
    > I do reflect, from time to time, that I am generally upwind of Washington
    > ground zero, and am happy for that sad thought. Certainly, my sense is that
    > our safety here is less than it was a year ago, and that we have brought
    > much of the increase in danger upon ourselves.
    >
    > Cheers,
    > Lawry
    >
    >
    >> -----Original Message-----
    >> From: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk [mailto:fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk]On Behalf
    >> Of Wade Smith
    >> Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 11:46 AM
    >> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
    >> Subject: Re: Why Europe is so Contrary
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> On Thursday, December 5, 2002, at 11:30 AM, Lawrence DeBivort wrote:
    >>
    >>> Hey! Have mercy. I live next door to some of these goofy-woofs,
    >>> and have to
    >>> keep my hopes up somehow...
    >>
    >> As long as you're not downwind, it should be okay....
    >>
    >>> Karl Rove, Reed, Feith, Wolfowitz, Perle, et al,
    >>
    >> See, this is why I have to read more. I have no idea who these guys are.
    >>
    >> And the snow is on its way.
    >>
    >> - Wade

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