RE: Japanese Univ. to set up world meme bank

From: Lawrence DeBivort (debivort@umd5.umd.edu)
Date: Tue 03 Dec 2002 - 16:49:42 GMT

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    Interesting thought, Grant... Paleomemes and Neomemes?

    No, no new leaf. I find the term 'memes' very useful and productive, but my definition is idiosyncratic to my own work, it would seem, though entirely compatible with Dawkins. So I sometimes use the less specific 'ideas' or whatever when what I am saying might trip up on the conflicting definitions that people on this list use....

    <<Elaboration mode ON>>... Generally, I dislike arguments over definitions, as the outcome is without true consequence, other, perhaps, than agreement. My work -- fortunately! -- does not require the agreement of others on this matter, nor does my work interfere with the progress that others make. If using different definitions increases the chances that more people will make progress, than, in my book, its a good thing, not to be constrained by requiring agreement on starting point definitions. <<Elaboration mode OFF>>

    Hope this makes sense. Cheers, Lawry

    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk [mailto:fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk]On Behalf
    > Of Scott Chase
    > Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 11:10 AM
    > To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
    > Subject: RE: Japanese Univ. to set up world meme bank
    >
    > >From: "Lawrence DeBivort" <debivort@umd5.umd.edu>
    > >Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
    > >To: <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
    > >Subject: RE: Japanese Univ. to set up world meme bank
    > >Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 08:53:16 -0500
    > >
    > >It might be more interesting (and more feasible) for the university to
    > >catalog those ideas that have become obsolete or have died.
    > >
    > >L
    > >
    > Just as there's a division between paleontologists who study extinct
    > organisms (as indexed by the fossil record) and neontologists who study
    > extant organisms (as indexed in the biodiversity of the living
    > world), there
    > could be a division between those who study extinct and extant ideas.
    >
    > I notice you are using the term idea and not forcing memes into the
    > spotlight. Are you turning over a new leaf?
    >
    > Some think they see memes everywhere they look.
    > >
    > > > -----Original Message-----
    > > > From: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk
    [mailto:fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk]On Behalf
    > > Of Wade T.Smith
    > > Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 7:46 AM
    > > To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
    > > Subject: Re: Japanese Univ. to set up world meme bank
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > On Tuesday, December 3, 2002, at 12:46 , Sabrina Marr wrote:
    > >
    > > > make a list of basic memes
    > >
    > > Interesting concept.
    > >
    > > (The performance-only model allows no such catalog, of course, only
    > > patterns, sort of like life....)
    > >
    > > But, perhaps there might be a workable list of speciations, if you will.
    > >
    > > - Wade
    > >
    > >
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