RE: Islam and Europe and Joe

From: joedees@bellsouth.net
Date: Fri 22 Nov 2002 - 19:10:58 GMT

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    > Thanks, Scott. I too had hoped that we might engage a discussion on
    > Islam and its tendencies. That is why I have (ad nauseum, perhaps)
    > tried to point people toward Karen Armstrong's BATTLE FOR GOD (hint,
    > hint!) It provides a wonderful departure point for such an
    > examination. I do think that having such an examination will be hard
    > here, with Joe occupying its memespace with his toxicity.
    >
    I am interested in the toxic mutation that Radical Islam comprises, for that mutation is the source of so much unremitting terror in the world. That study, however, seems quiet unacceptable to Lawry, or at least seems to reside outside his memetic filters. Such as study has indeed been done, and I propose it as an alterante starting point for such discussions. It is to be found at: http://www.policyreview.org/AUG02/harris.html

    > If it is a feasible alternative, I would be delighted to participate
    > in an exploration of Islamic tendencies off-line with others from this
    > list, where we might make some progress; there is a lot of learning
    > there to be achieved by all, and it would be great if we could do
    > this. Anybody else interested?
    >
    It would depend, I suppose, upon whether or not they shared your biases; if they did, the prospects for enhanced understanding are dismal, at best.
    >
    > Cheers,
    > Lawry
    >
    > Joe:>Lawry forgets that Jews are Semitic; for Lawry, I'm guessing that
    > he >would prefer that Jews not exist at all. This European
    > antisemitism has >dark and well-known roots, and a horrible history,
    > and it would not >surprise me at all if Lawry shared it. For the
    > enemy of his enemies is >his friend; thus the enemy of his new friend
    > must be his enemy, also. > >
    >
    > Scott: Whoah there, calm down. I realize that Lawry may have ticked
    > you off with some of his pinpricks, but that's no reason to go off the
    > deep end and characterize him in such a way.
    >
    > BTW I share some of Lawry's critical attitude towards Israeli policies
    > and some of the history behind the creation of the Israeli state (eg-
    > the Palestinian nakba).
    >
    > I wish he'd apply his font of wisdom to being more critical of
    > Islamist tendencies too.
    >
    >
    >
    >
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