RE: Why Europe is so Contrary

From: Virginia Bowen (vbowen@bowenconsulting.net)
Date: Mon 18 Nov 2002 - 15:46:06 GMT

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    Thank you Vincent:

    Perhaps some may have misunderstood my point. What you are saying about the
    "my memes are better than yours" material is the point I was trying to make.

    I just find the natural instinct to tribalism very intriguing, which is why memetics is so interesting to me.

    Virginia

    Murrieta, CA

    "My treasures do not clink together nor glitter. They gleam in the sun and bray in the night."

    -----Original Message----- From: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk [mailto:fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk]On Behalf Of Vincent Campbell Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 5:47 AM To: 'memetics@mmu.ac.uk' Subject: RE: Why Europe is so Contrary

    Hi Virginia,

    Perhaps you're right here, but I didn't think the purpose of the list was for "my memes are better than yours" kind of material which some of the posts seem to amount to. But I appreciate your comments.

    Vincent

    > ----------
    > From: Virginia Bowen
    > Reply To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
    > Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 6:28 PM
    > To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
    > Subject: RE: Why Europe is so Contrary
    >
    > Coming out of lurkdom for just one reply:
    >
    > Alan asks: "what has this rant got to do with memetics?" to which I would
    > say "everything".
    >
    > I think Joe's point here is that the adoption of memes is fluid (unlike
    > genes which we're stuck with at least until we start grafting on new
    > ones).
    > Thus, the adoption of a memetic belief can and will often be governed by
    > the
    > path of least resistance for many, many people. That, and the path least
    > likely to cause mortal harm - at least in the short run.
    >
    > I think he's made a very interesting point.
    >
    > By the way, I was once involved in the COV also. The rants against Joe
    > are
    > mainly because the COV appears to be mostly inhabited by those who carry
    > largely politically liberal memes. This list also has that slant. Joe
    > expresses a more conservative memetic leaning. Isn't it interesting to
    > note
    > the way that tribalism expresses itself even in these supposedly
    > intellectual discussions? In other words - there's no escaping it. We
    > ARE
    > a tribal species.
    >
    > Just thought fodder.
    >
    > Virginia
    >
    > CA
    >
    > "My treasures do not clink together nor glitter. They gleam in the sun
    > and
    > bray in the night."
    >
    >
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk [mailto:fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk]On Behalf
    > Of Alan Patrick
    > Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 7:57 AM
    > To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
    > Subject: Re: Why Europe is so Contrary
    >
    >
    > >snipping<
    >
    > > The international community adopts a similar approach to the
    > > Middle East. After all, who is easier to condemn--Arabs or Jews?
    > > And so the pressure always falls on the latter. Especially since
    > > everyone knows that their conduct is generally guided by
    > > principles of humanity, morality, honesty, compassion and justice.
    >
    > What has this rant got to do with memetics?
    >
    > Alan
    >
    >
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