From: joedees@bellsouth.net
Date: Sun 17 Nov 2002 - 06:19:39 GMT
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> >From: joedees@bellsouth.net
> >Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
> >To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk, fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk
> >Subject: RE: The terrorism meme
> >Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 23:22:49 -0600
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> > > Snip.........Joe>>
> > > >Would this include those who hope to murder their way into an
> > > >eternal
> > > > position in Paradise, there to enjoy the perpetual ministrations
> > > > of
> > > >seventy-two virgins?
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> > > I am taking this to be a genuine question Joe, as opposed to a
> > > snide comment. IMHO nobody 'murders' their way into 'paradise', if
> > > the killing is not done in the pursuance of a - legitimised -
> > > Jihad, (which to the best of my knowledge does not exist between
> > > Islam and USAnia). In Islam the perpetrator of violent and or
> > > untimely death gets no free trip to paradise. Point two, there is
> > > some disputation as to the interpretation of the passage about the
> > > 72 virgins, UM... how to explain... It may well be that the martyr
> > > in Jihad gets a supply of sweet, white grapes - No doubt a great
> > > disappointment to some horny Moslem terrorists. But before we get
> > > too carried away with Moslem barbarity, remember that the
> > > universal promise to Christian soldiers to the Crusades and other
> > > wars sanctioned by Christian churches and governments, was free
> > > entry to Paradise. It is a way to get people to be willing to die
> > > for a cause. It is not a marker for civilisation. Can we get back
> > > to the memes at play here Joe? Jeremy
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> >Remember that that Chriostian promise was proferred ive centuries
> >ago, and has long been abrogated and invalidated by the European
> >Enlightenment (which is why we do not have roving bands of Christian
> >fundies over here seeking to annihilate atheists and pagans with
> >bombs and guns), the equivalent of which has NOT been experienced in
> >much of the Muslim world; thus they continue to cleave to, and act
> >upon, their medieval memetic mindset. And that is, indeed, a MAJOR
> >memetic problem.
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> Are we devoid of Christian fundie nutters? Hasn't the abortion issue
> spawned some questionable elements on the extreme edge of the pro-life
> end of the spectrum? What of the Branch Davidians? What symbol does
> the KKK burn on lawns?
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> Yet, it does seem that Islam tends to breed extremist sentiment quite
> well in comparison.
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Yes, their murderous minority seems to be a much greater percentage
of the whole.
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