From: joedees@bellsouth.net
Date: Sun 17 Nov 2002 - 01:47:41 GMT
> At 09:46 AM 16/11/02 -0500, you wrote:
> SNIP...............(Lawry)
> > Would a wife-beater be a terrorist? Would a
> >policy-maker who threatens harm to foreign populations, or domestic
> >ones? SNIP....... Cheers to all, Lawry
> >
> Good Questions Lawry
> I think that, whilst the wife (or husband) beater rules and coerces by
> the use of terror, the personal abuse involved is for personal 'gain',
> and is therefore not terrorism. A policy maker on the other hand, eg.
> those who refuse to address climate change, who makes policy decisions
> which impinge on the lives and quality of life of civilian
> populations, including unborn generations, for political and/of
> commercial 'gain', is a terrorist. Remember that 'working' definitions
> seem to include the concept that terrorism is a criminal act committed
> against civilians or a civilian population outside of a declared war.
> The other criteria is that the terror act intentionally targets the
> wellbeing of the target community. Therefore, the bombing of the
> Rainbow Warrior in Auckland Harbour by the French SS was, whilst
> carried out by a sovereign State, probably was a criminal act of
> terror. That's what I reckon any'ow mates. Jeremy
>
This doesn't make sense. The French were hoping to dissuade
Greenpeace from harrassing their nuke tests; that's 'gain', just like
Palestinians gaining all of Israel or Israel retaining its territory. The
Russians are hoping to retain sovereignty over Chechnya, just as the
Chechens are fighting to gain it, and the Muslim terrorists killing Hindus
in Kashmir want Islamic control of the province. And Osama Bin Laden
is hoping for the same thing that Saddam Hussein is, that is, to become
the Caliph of a reconstituted Pan-Muslim nation. Earlier, Moammar
Qaddafi hoped for the same. Even the Unabomber was hoping to wean
people off computers, and Tim McVeigh was hoping to further the cause
of white separatism and domination put forth in his Bible, THE TURNER
DIARIES, as was Bob Mathews, when he formed The Order. And
George Metesky, the Mad Bomber, was hoping to force concessions
from Con Edison Power Company.
>
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