RE: The terrorism meme

From: Lawrence DeBivort (debivort@umd5.umd.edu)
Date: Sat 16 Nov 2002 - 14:46:15 GMT

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    Thanks for the undcp lead, Wade. I hadn't heard of them until your email.

    I have been going around and around on how important it is to define
    'terrorism.' No definition that I have assayed generates general agreement. Sometimes it is because my government friends don't want to admit the possibility that the Us or other States might be considered terrorists in any of their activities. Others may disagree because of their different concepts of 'terror.' Would a wife-beater be a terrorist? Would a policy-maker who threatens harm to foreign populations, or domestic ones? The more I probe the language, the further I am from a satisfactory definition. I distrusted the 'war on terrorism' language from the first moment Bush launched it, but only came to understand the depths of linguistic weakness when I probed this nominally simple matter of definition.

    In running into this difficulty though, it got me thinking about the cognitive structures that lay behind the language, and that has proved immensely fruitful, so it has not been a waste of time, at all.

    Cheers to all, Lawry

    -----Original Message----- From: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk [mailto:fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk]On Behalf Of Jeremy Bradley Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 6:03 AM To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: Re: The terrorism meme

    At 08:03 AM 15/11/02 -0500, you wrote:
    >
    >On Friday, November 15, 2002, at 07:57 , Lawrence DeBivort wrote:
    >
    >> The US gov't definition of 'terrorism' excludes acts by States, which
    >> means,
    >> if one accepts the definition, that States can engage in terrorist
    >> activities (as many have, e.g. the death gangs in central and south
    >> America)
    >> without being called such.
    >
    >There is no working definition of terrorism, at present, in the world.
    >This from http://www.undcp.org/odccp/terrorism_definitions.html is an
    >attempt.
    >
    >- Wade

    That's not far off mine Wade ;~> Jeremy

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