From: joedees@bellsouth.net
Date: Mon 11 Nov 2002 - 00:30:00 GMT
> No, Sudan is split between northern Muslim Arabs, and southern black
> something else. The conflict there is one of a civil war; it has
> nothing to do with (US) foreign aid being or not being available...
>
Southern black Christians and Animists; whom the Muslims in the north
are willing to exterminate, if necessary, in order to force Shar'ia law
upon them.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk [mailto:fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk]On
> Behalf Of joedees@bellsouth.net Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 6:00
> PM To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk; fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Subject: RE:
> Post-Saddam Iraq?
>
> > The Muslim countries of Africa are really only those of North Africa
> > - Egypt, Tunisia, Libya, Algeria and Morocco. Sub-Saharan African
> > countries in which Muslim believers are numerous have not had
> > Islamic forms of government. The Northern African countries have
> > done pretty well, e.g. re. AIDS, tribal warfare and genocide, etc..
> > My comments and questions about the US and assistance to Africa have
> > been focused on sub-Saharan Africa. I should have made this clear,
> > earlier.
> >
> The Sudan hasn't done very well regarding genocide, and it is a Muslim
> country... > > Cheers, > Lawry > > > -----Original Message----- >
> From: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk [mailto:fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk]On >
> Behalf Of Grant Callaghan Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 5:14 PM To:
> > memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: Re: Post-Saddam Iraq? > > >-----
> Original Message ----- > >From: "Grant Callaghan"
> <grantc4@hotmail.com> > >Kenneth, > > > >"At the expense of Africa"?
> I am not following your logic.... > > > >What resources did Africa
> contribute to the rebuilding of Germany > > > >(and the > >rest > > >
> >of Europe?)? > > > >Like I said, IIRC the Marshall - plan was aimed
> for Europe. > >Europe was to re- built first with the possible
> economical help of > >the US, Africa was completely left out of the
> picture... deliberately > >! In one of the earlier threads I sended to
> this list, a year of so > >ago, I did mention this, same subject,
> different context. For > >details, sorry, my mind is empty.... > > >
> >Anyone !? > > > >Kenneth > > > With all the ail wealth in Africa, why
> didn't the African countries > rebuild Africa. South Africa managed
> to rebuild and Zimbabwe and > Kenya. Why couldn't all the Muslim
> nations? It wasn't our money that > was missing. It was the fact
> that the people governing those > countries did a lousy job of it and
> they found ways to fritter away > the money that oil and other
> resources brought in on wars and outright > theft. How could we have
> prevented them from doing that? > > How could we have prevented Saddam
> Husein from building palaces all > over Iraq while he claimed his
> people were starving. Why isn't his > oil money going to feeding and
> educating his people rather than > maintaining the biggest army in the
> region? If America and Europe > step in, that may change. > But the
> ony way it could have happened before was for the West to > take >
> over those countries and force a decent government on them. Something
> > the whole remainder of the world would be up in arms about as they
> are > now with Iraq and Afghanistan. You can lead a horse to water,
> as they > say, but you can't make him drink. > > Grant > > >
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