From: joedees@bellsouth.net
Date: Sun 10 Nov 2002 - 22:59:37 GMT
> The Muslim countries of Africa are really only those of North Africa -
> Egypt, Tunisia, Libya, Algeria and Morocco. Sub-Saharan African
> countries in which Muslim believers are numerous have not had Islamic
> forms of government. The Northern African countries have done pretty
> well, e.g. re. AIDS, tribal warfare and genocide, etc.. My comments
> and questions about the US and assistance to Africa have been focused
> on sub-Saharan Africa. I should have made this clear, earlier.
>
The Sudan hasn't done very well regarding genocide, and it is a Muslim
country...
>
> Cheers,
> Lawry
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk [mailto:fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk]On
> Behalf Of Grant Callaghan Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 5:14 PM To:
> memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: Re: Post-Saddam Iraq?
>
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Grant Callaghan" <grantc4@hotmail.com>
> >Kenneth,
> > > >"At the expense of Africa"? I am not following your logic....
> > > >What resources did Africa contribute to the rebuilding of Germany
> > > >(and the
> >rest
> > > >of Europe?)?
> >
> >Like I said, IIRC the Marshall - plan was aimed for Europe.
> >Europe was to re- built first with the possible economical help of
> >the US, Africa was completely left out of the picture... deliberately
> >! In one of the earlier threads I sended to this list, a year of so
> >ago, I did mention this, same subject, different context. For
> >details, sorry, my mind is empty....
> >
> >Anyone !?
> >
> >Kenneth
> >
> With all the ail wealth in Africa, why didn't the African countries
> rebuild Africa. South Africa managed to rebuild and Zimbabwe and
> Kenya. Why couldn't all the Muslim nations? It wasn't our money that
> was missing. It was the fact that the people governing those
> countries did a lousy job of it and they found ways to fritter away
> the money that oil and other resources brought in on wars and outright
> theft. How could we have prevented them from doing that?
>
> How could we have prevented Saddam Husein from building palaces all
> over Iraq while he claimed his people were starving. Why isn't his
> oil money going to feeding and educating his people rather than
> maintaining the biggest army in the region? If America and Europe
> step in, that may change.
> But the ony way it could have happened before was for the West to
> take
> over those countries and force a decent government on them. Something
> the whole remainder of the world would be up in arms about as they are
> now with Iraq and Afghanistan. You can lead a horse to water, as they
> say, but you can't make him drink.
>
> Grant
>
>
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