From: joedees@bellsouth.net
Date: Sat 09 Nov 2002 - 04:31:19 GMT
> Snip.........
> >>When I say the means we use shape the ends we
> >> get, that's what I mean. The means we used to fight Russia in
> >> Afghanistan led to the Taliban taking control. It led to the
> >> creation of Al Quaeda (the list of reliable agents who were trained
> >> and proved their worth in Afghanistan) We are taking the expedient
> >> route to solve a problem that is much deeper and will last much
> >> longer than the means we are using will solve.
>
> Hi peace lovers
> There is a great kid's song that carries a memetic warning of this
> action - over-reaction tendency in some human cultures; it is called
> 'There Was an Old Lady Who Swallowed a Fly'. Do you know it? On the
> surface it is a silly song, but the meme is solid and stable. Each
> time she takes a more drastic remedy until she dies - not of the
> complaint but the cures. (last chorus of long song) She swallowed a
> horse to catch the cow She swallowed the cow to chase the dog (what a
> hog, she swallowed a dog) She swallowed the dog to catch the cat
> (imagine that, she swallowed a cat) She swallowed the cat to catch
> the bird - and so on through the spider and the fly This is a straight
> out pedagogical ditty - with observable and quantifiable memes. Who
> was it who said that if we refuse the lessons of history, we are
> destined to repeat them, (or something like that)? Peace be with you
> Jeremy
>
And in this case, to not cure the disease will be to suffer greatly from it,
and to abandon the Iraqi people to suffer. But it isn't PC liberal to
liberate them, or even to notice that they exist except as anstract lives
that have to be preserved from the spectre of 'collateral damage', not
oppressed human serfs quietly yearning for freedom (because to do so
out loud earns a bullet - after the torture); it certainly ain't cool to notice
that they are terrorized and enslaved. Their lives do not rest in peace;
they are quietly desperate by dual necessity.
>
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