RE: The terrorism meme

From: Lawrence DeBivort (debivort@umd5.umd.edu)
Date: Tue 05 Nov 2002 - 03:51:36 GMT

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    I can't disagree with you, Grant. The question, then is, What tactics/strategies should each group now try? Scott has suggested for the Palestinians non-violence. (Personally, I think this has much to recommend it; might a reciprocal Israeli new tactic be? I do note that the Druse tried non-violent resistance to Israeli occupation, and did have some modest success, though ultimately it failed.)

    Would the new tactics of one group have to be met with new tactics by the other? Is there a way of starting both groups on the first steps toward new
    (and less destructive) tactics?

    What are your own thoughts?

    Lawry

    -----Original Message----- From: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk [mailto:fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk]On Behalf Of Grant Callaghan Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 10:06 PM To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: RE: The terrorism meme

    >
    > > Scott, what tactics would you suggest? I assume that if you agree
    > > with the spirit of Palestinian self-determination that the tactics you
    > > might recommend should be effective. We need all the better thinking
    > > available, and I look forward to your thoughts. Best regards, Lawry
    > >
    >If the Palestinians would stop the suicide bombings and reform their
    >corrupt regime, they might engender a modicum of (now
    >understandably absent) trust from the Israeli side.
    > > --------------------
    > > Scott:
    > >
    > > I've no problems with the general spirit of Palestinian
    > > self-determination, but the tactics used have been abhorrent.
    > >
    Both sides are suffering from the means they used earlier on to solve the problems. The means they used produced the result they're getting. Until they change those means there is no hope of getting better results. Everything else is just trying to justify the horific acts that both sides are using on each other. None of what they are doing will solve the problem. There is no justification that makes sense because it is all based on religious faith. Both sides claim to be carrying out the will of an angry God. Both of the people claiming to speak for God say God wants revenge. Revenge is an endless cycle. No one can win such a war. They can only tire of it when enough people have died that they can't remember what it was they were fighting about.

    Grant

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