From: joedees@bellsouth.net
Date: Sun 03 Nov 2002 - 21:04:36 GMT
>
> Kenneth,
> > > Oh come on Joe, are you that blind !?
> > > Selfishness is said to be ways by which genes and all propagate
> > > for their own account through nature !
> Joe,
> > They do not say to themselves, "I am doing this for my own benefit",
> > nor CAN they; thus, although you may categorize the behavior as
> > (metaphorically) selfish, the organisms themselves cannot literally
> > BE selfish.
>
> You understand perfectly what I have meant here, Joe, no need to
> emphazise you're right ! By the definition of selfishness I use is it
> perfectly understandable, metaphorically as you call it, to see or-
> ganisms as selfish, that is, the ways they use to get to their goals
> are ' selfish ' in their own respect. Better !?
>
Yeah; the selfishness is not in the organism so much as it is in some
human interpretations of its actions.
> Joe,
> > I recognize that self-conscious awareness is a special emergent
> > quality born of a quantity/complexity quotient, and, though quite
> > common on planet Earth (although still comprising only a miniscule
> > percentage of the life forms here), is exceedingly rare in the
> > universe at large as far
> as
> > we know. It grants us freedom of choice and some degree of
> > imaginative awareness of the consequences of our choices, and allows
> > us to view our interrelations with each other and with the ecosystem
> > we share, and develop sets of rights and responsibilities to allow
> > for both our own perpetuation and the perpetuation of our
> > environment (and these are intimately connected).
>
> No need to rub it under my nose, I understand, it is just I detect(ed)
> from time to time, beneath the surface, things of a somewhat religious
> order, things which I didn 't, anthropomorphisically ( what a word !)
> could identify with you, that's all ! No hard feeling I hope !?
>
None at all.
Religious? ME? Ummm...NAAAH!
>
> Many regards,
>
> Kenneth
>
>
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