Re: I know one when I see one

From: joedees@bellsouth.net
Date: Sun 03 Nov 2002 - 21:04:36 GMT

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    > Kenneth,
    > > > Oh come on Joe, are you that blind !?
    > > > Selfishness is said to be ways by which genes and all propagate
    > > > for their own account through nature !
    > Joe,
    > > They do not say to themselves, "I am doing this for my own benefit",
    > > nor CAN they; thus, although you may categorize the behavior as
    > > (metaphorically) selfish, the organisms themselves cannot literally
    > > BE selfish.
    >
    > You understand perfectly what I have meant here, Joe, no need to
    > emphazise you're right ! By the definition of selfishness I use is it
    > perfectly understandable, metaphorically as you call it, to see or-
    > ganisms as selfish, that is, the ways they use to get to their goals
    > are ' selfish ' in their own respect. Better !?
    >
    Yeah; the selfishness is not in the organism so much as it is in some human interpretations of its actions.
    > Joe,
    > > I recognize that self-conscious awareness is a special emergent
    > > quality born of a quantity/complexity quotient, and, though quite
    > > common on planet Earth (although still comprising only a miniscule
    > > percentage of the life forms here), is exceedingly rare in the
    > > universe at large as far
    > as
    > > we know. It grants us freedom of choice and some degree of
    > > imaginative awareness of the consequences of our choices, and allows
    > > us to view our interrelations with each other and with the ecosystem
    > > we share, and develop sets of rights and responsibilities to allow
    > > for both our own perpetuation and the perpetuation of our
    > > environment (and these are intimately connected).
    >
    > No need to rub it under my nose, I understand, it is just I detect(ed)
    > from time to time, beneath the surface, things of a somewhat religious
    > order, things which I didn 't, anthropomorphisically ( what a word !)
    > could identify with you, that's all ! No hard feeling I hope !?
    >
    None at all. Religious? ME? Ummm...NAAAH!
    >
    > Many regards,
    >
    > Kenneth
    >
    >
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