From: joedees@bellsouth.net
Date: Sat 02 Nov 2002 - 02:25:23 GMT
>
> On Friday, November 1, 2002, at 06:26 , joedees@bellsouth.net wrote:
>
> > your
> > position, which seems to be that perfprmance is all there is, and
> > that competence is a chimera. Tell that to a bicycle rider.
>
> I _am_ a bicycle rider. And a good one. I can manage a track stand,
> even.
>
> My position is that, and please, read this twice, _performance is the
> cultural unit required by memetic theory_. Nothing in this is a
> limitation of performance, and performance _demands_ a performer
> capable of performing, thus _competent_. I take most definitions at
> face value in my model as well as in my thinking, trying not to add or
> pad with jargon. I never said, again I stress, that _behavior_ is all
> there is, as I never introduced the pemetic model as a behavioralist
> model, and I think I still see something seething under that
> misconception.
>
> There are no chimeras in the pemetic model, as there are, the meme
> itself, the memeinthemind, in your theory, with the strict caveat that
> culture, itself, could be a chimera in both models, and there is no
> reason to stuff that conjecture under some rug somewhere, either.
>
> How is the memeinthemind _not_ chimeric? What is non-conjectural about
> the memeinthemind? It was enough of a conjecture to axiomize that
> culture needed a unit. It was tidy and not a little cute to call it a
> meme.
>
How do you re-meme-ber, between bicycling performances, to ride well
enough so that you get somewhere without falling off, as I'm most
certain that you did when you began to try bicycling (unless you were a
bizarre prodigy)? Answer: You have learned, aand cognitively retain,
the ability to sidewise balance as you travel forward. That's a meme,
and it is internal; yet you can repeatedly externalize it and
performatively teach it to your kids by repeatedly instantiating tokens of
its type until your student 'gets it', and is able to replicate it well enough
to get from point A to point B without skinned knees.
>
> - Wade
>
>
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