Re: I know one when I see one

From: joedees@bellsouth.net
Date: Fri 01 Nov 2002 - 23:32:22 GMT

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    > On Friday, November 1, 2002, at 05:39 , joedees@bellsouth.net wrote:
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    > > But your memeinthebody model
    >
    > No, it is _not_ a memeinthebody model- that is _your_ model.
    >
    > The pemetic model is a memeinperformance model.
    >
    I have yet to witness a nonbody performance. Have you?
    >
    > Here's the complete scan of definitions of 'performance'. The pemetic
    > model also assumes the axiomatic position that an observer and a stage
    > are also conditions of the cultural unit. Your model does not, and
    > that is its glaring flaw, and one that is unrecoverable from, IMHO.
    >
    Not all attempts to replicate must be successful for the attempt to be made. A meme that demands periodic performance, such as cigarette smoking, will be indulged in both publicly and privately.
    >
    > *****
    >
    > From Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913):
    >
    > Performance \Per*form"ance\, n.
    > The act of performing; the carrying into execution or action;
    > execution; achievement; accomplishment; representation by action;
    > as, the performance of an undertaking of a duty.
    >
    I fail to see an audience here.
    >
    > Promises are not binding where the performance is
    > impossible. --Paley.
    >
    > 2. That which is performed or accomplished; a thing done or
    > carried through; an achievement; a deed; an act; a feat;
    > esp., an action of an elaborate or public character. ``Her
    > walking and other actual performances.'' --Shak. ``His musical
    > performances.'' --Macaulay.
    >
    I also fail to see an audience here. One may, and usually does, perform masturbation privately, no?
    >
    > Syn: Completion; consummation; execution; accomplishment;
    > achievement; production; work; act; action; deed;
    > exploit; feat.
    >
    Actions do not require observers. The shoe is pulled on the foot whether or not someone else is in the room.
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    >
    > From WordNet (r) 1.7:
    >
    > performance
    > n 1: a dramatic or musical entertainment; "they listened to ten
    > different performances"; "the play ran for 100
    > performances"; "the frequent performances of the
    > symphony testify to its popularity" [syn: public
    > presentation]
    > 2: the act of performing; of doing something successfully;
    > using knowledge as distinguished from merely possessing
    > it; "they criticised his performance as mayor";
    > "experience generally improves performance" [syn: execution,
    > carrying out, carrying into action]
    > 3: the act of presenting a play or a piece of music or other
    > entertainment; "we congratulated him on his performance at
    > the rehearsal"; "an inspired performance of Mozart's C minor
    > concerto"
    > 4: process or manner of functioning or operating; "the power of
    > its engine determine its operation"; "the plane's
    > operation in high winds"; "they compared the cooking
    > performance of each oven"; "the jet's performance
    > conformed to high standards" [syn: operation, functioning]
    > 5: any recognized accomplishment; "they admired his performance
    > under stress"; "when Roger Maris powered four home runs in
    > one game his performance merits awe"
    >
    Once again, there may be observers for performances, but it is not a necessity that there must be.
    >
    > ****
    >
    > And, who can actually observe the mind? Really? Seriously?
    >
    We commonly observe its behavioral effects, and less commonly observe their correlations with cognitive changes.
    >
    > > fMRI and PET scan experimental evidence is corroboration enough to
    > > sustain the theory
    >
    > Okay, if anyone is listening, does anyone else here agree with this?
    > IMHO there is not sufficient evidence from any source to corroborate
    > the memesinthemind conjecture, much less (or more, can't tell which),
    > corroborate the existence of 'mind', but, who am I?
    >
    One who is thinking of replies before you type them.
    >
    > - Wade
    >
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