Re: I know one when I see one

From: joedees@bellsouth.net
Date: Fri 01 Nov 2002 - 17:58:21 GMT

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    > On Friday, November 1, 2002, at 06:23 , joedees@bellsouth.net wrote:
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    > > But how can performances resemble each other without their being
    > > anchored in common thoughts? Short answer: they can't.
    >
    > I agree.
    >
    > So- you are calling 'common thoughts' - 'memes'.
    >
    > (And I am calling 'common behaviors' - 'bemes'. We might actually have
    > a marriage of sorts there. I just demand that culture requires
    > behavior, not just common thoughts.)
    >
    And I demand that culture also requires common thoughts, not just behavior. BOTH are necessary, but neither is sufficient alone. Selection and mutation happen mainly internally and cognitively, while communication and transmission - that is, attempts at replication - is an external action function. Without both, memetic evolution cannot occur.
    >
    > I just think, that because we are all homo sapiens living on the same
    > world, that common thoughts would be just that- totally unwonderful
    > happenstances of the way we are.
    >
    > I still think it's what we do with them that matters.
    >
    We can't do anything with what we do not have. So having them matters just as much.
    >
    > - Wade
    >
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