From: joedees@bellsouth.net
Date: Fri 01 Nov 2002 - 11:25:36 GMT
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> From: <joedees@bellsouth.net>
> > > On Thursday, October 31, 2002, at 03:19 , Van oost Kenneth wrote:
> > >
> > > > Generalizin' behavior and than predicting what the next
> > > > individualistic behavior will be is in my book arrogant and
> > > > shows how much people don 't understand of what is it to be a
> > > > human individual_ moreover it shows how much people are willing
> > > > to set themselves aside for a proper/ better good... Aaarrhhh !!
> Wade,
> > > Aargh indeed. Since beme1 is never and cannot be beme2, there is
> > > no generalizing of behavior in the bemetic model. There is
> > > location of similarity as an agent of cultural continuance, but,
> > > no, I really don't see much hope of prediction from _any_ of the
> > > cultural, memetic, or bemetic models, actually.
> Joe,
> > there is no generalizing of behavior in the bemetic model.
> > One of its fatal flaws.
>
> This is becoming a question of ideology IMO !
> Wade is in a sense emphazin' individuality and Joe lingers onto a more
> collective state of things. In Wade's proposal a Bildung- ideal is
> set/ implied, Joe uses the gene- ralisation to drive cultural
> transmission. Wade's proposal is something that implies humanism/
> romantism, Joe's claim is dependent of something higher, more divine,
> collectiviness is seen here as a ' natural autority ' !
>
> I reject that...
>
Do you reject DNA, a common molecular basis for instances of similar
creatures, as blithely and facilely as you reject a common thought-basis
for instances of similar actions?
>
> Kenneth
>
>
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