From: joedees@bellsouth.net
Date: Fri 01 Nov 2002 - 09:34:31 GMT
>
> On Thursday, October 31, 2002, at 08:47 , Grant Callaghan wrote:
>
> > I knew exactly what I wanted my mind and body to do for me. It just
> > took a long time and a lot of practice to get them to do it.
>
> Exactly. A long time. And many attempts. And when it happened, this
> reach for the center of a target, the center becomes more defined
> itself.
>
> > Or do you think any improvement is merely serendipitous and they are
> > only able to see improvement after the fact?
>
> Improvement is not merely serendipitous, but, yes, we _are_ only able
> to see it after the fact. (How else?!) We can imagine it however many
> times we like, but there will be no referential or experiential event
> to improve upon or reference (by that referential process we call the
> self) unless the attempt is made.
>
> Sometimes composers have to alter their score _because_ it is too
> difficult to play, or does not 'match' the instrument they are writing
> for. It is often said by some composers who use concrete or electronic
> means to develop their sound sources that they are finally able to
> recreate what they are 'hearing' inside their heads. But they had to
> try to make these sounds.
>
> I realize that there is activity of an advanced and complex and very
> preparational level going on in the brain, but I (or the bemetic
> model, whichever came first), has to insist that unless there is a
> performance, there is nothing occuring that could possibly effect
> culture.
>
> And, yes, the bemetic model has to insist that this performance has to
> happen, because of the referential nature of the self, and the
> altering conditions of nature and the environment the self needs to
> perform within.
>
> If wishes were horses.
>
In the absence of wishes, wills and decisions, we have plants.
>
> - Wade
>
>
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