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Robin Faichney wrote:
> Could I clarify one point, Chuck?
>
> You say behaviour has to be useful, but useful to whom, exactly? Must
> it be primarily of use to the behaving individual, his/her family or
> part thereof, or the wider community?
>
The individual - which Dawkins calls the Survival Machine. The "community
effect" if you will comes from the fact that social animals need to form
alliances with each other. So -- the individual can be a legitimate unit
of analysis.
Although selection takes place at the "selfish gene" level, the aggregate
effect must be the creation of a survival machine. On a probability basis,
the individual will more likely form durable alliances with those who
share more genetic material.
Since I am sure you know this, I am waiting to hear the reason why you are
asking me :)
>
> --
> Robin Faichney
>
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