Re: electric meme bombs

From: joedees@bellsouth.net
Date: Wed 16 Oct 2002 - 20:50:57 GMT

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    > On Wednesday, October 16, 2002, at 03:58 , Grant Callaghan wrote:
    >
    > > The question here is not whether a meme is or isn't. The question
    > > is what are we going to call things? At some point in time someone
    > > wrote a ditty called London Bridge is falling down. Some of us are
    > > calling the creation of that ditty in the mind of the creator a
    > > meme. Some are saying they will only refer to it as a meme after
    > > he/she has passed it on to someone else. Some say it is what was
    > > passed on that was the meme and everyone else who sings or says or
    > > writes it is also passing on that same meme. To each person who
    > > uses the word, "meme," to refer to what he/she has decided to call a
    > > meme, it is a meme. To those who have decided something different,
    > > it is not. But there is no meme outside of what we decide to call
    > > something. If we decide to call it a beme, then for that person at
    > > that moment, that's what it is. So arguing over what is and is not
    > > a meme is futile and self defeating. What we have to decide is what
    > > part of our experience are we going to refer to as memes. Outside
    > > of that, they don't exist.
    >
    > It is all a question of what, yes.
    >
    > And stances.
    >
    > And the ability of a stance to model.
    >
    > IMHO, the behavior stance is the best modeler. And that is why I am
    > championing it.
    >
    > - Wade
    >
    And in my opinion, its adoption leads to self-contradictions and gaping holes - which is why I eschew it.
    >
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