Re: electric meme bombs

From: joedees@bellsouth.net
Date: Wed 16 Oct 2002 - 15:54:33 GMT

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    > On Tuesday, October 15, 2002, at 09:46 , joedees@bellsouth.net wrote:
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    > > You are actually attempting to pull a topsy-turvy, where the
    > > behavior becomes the meme and the mental configuration is the
    > > carrier. But carriers are not modified or selected; memes are.
    >
    > Yep, topsy-turvy perhaps, but no meme can be modified (as they all
    > must be) until it is observed, and in order to be observed, there has
    > to be a performance.
    >
    I disagree. A concept can be retooled, a speech can be rewritten or a melody can be recomposed in the mind (I can talk to myself, hear, and play tunes there if I try) before they are ever written down, spoken or sung. I'm certainly observing, and directing, the changes I am willfully mentally making in them.
    >
    > The selection only happens when the behavior is behaved.
    >
    > What's in the head _is_ the processing factory, the carrier, if you
    > will, as we are all carriers of viruses in that way, but the meme
    > itself is not there.
    >
    > It is what it is when it is, and then it is gone. The observer of it
    > might then want to perform it again, and might do so. And so it goes.
    >
    Nope. The meme is the single template that inspires multiple performances. It makes no sense to say that Sunday churchgoers reconvert to their faith once a week.
    >
    > - Wade
    >
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