Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id CAA18781 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Wed, 1 May 2002 02:59:13 +0100 X-Originating-IP: [209.240.222.132] From: "Scott Chase" <ecphoric@hotmail.com> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: Re: teleology and language Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 21:53:25 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: <F222kNsjUHQHh2wLCVY0000079b@hotmail.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 May 2002 01:53:25.0959 (UTC) FILETIME=[FBA16D70:01C1F0B2] Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>From: Bill Spight <bspight@pacbell.net>
>Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>Subject: Re: teleology and language
>Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 17:31:26 -0700
>
>Dear Wade,
>
> >
> > > Humans select among their linguistic options every
> > > day.
> >
> > But they don't select for them.
>
>The environment doesn't select for anything, either, in biological
>evolution. :-)
>
> > They are available options. Like items
> > on a shelf in a store.
> >
>
>If nobody buys pet rocks, they disappear from the shelves.
>
> > I'm not saying language is static. But mere dynamism is not evolution.
> >
>
>No, but that's not what I said. What I said was, "Replication,
>variation, selection." I did not make up that definition of evolution.
>
>
Evolution is "heritable changes in a population over time" where "heritable
changes" are often seen as "allelic frequency changes". Selection is NOT
part of the definition of evolution.
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