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Hi Steve, you wrote,
----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Drew <srdrew_1@hotmail.com>
> There is a lot to blame besides the media.
>
> According to the New York Times Op-Ed columns one factor is one that all
the
> western democracies could face. Given the situation in France of the big
two
> parties, the French public chose the 1st round ballot to stick two fingers
> up at them by voting for smaller 'no hoper' groups and parties.
> Unfortunately there was more choice on the left so the votes were thinned
> out, whilst in the right there were only two, so Le Pen benefited. Add in
> the stay at homes, and wallop neo Nazi is through by a whisker.
>
> A second point is the lack of real choice voters face every where. Grey
men
> in grey suits with policies to match have all seemed to blur, a bit like
the
> end of Orwell's 'Animal Farm' which produces the ever lower turnouts.
Yes, of course. I believe I mentioned this in my original posting, but my
point is, if the media did not take up its responsibility and did not write
about the possibilities the people had to choose from, but instead placed
the public before accomplished facts is than Le Pen 's surprise showing
not, partly their fault/ of their making !?
After all, people ' believe ' what is written down in newspapers and be-
lieve what is said on TV, but how many would ever delve in depht !?
How many would sincerely care about politics, the benefits yes, but the
rest !?
IMO, the point the public is making is that politics has to change, nomore
grey suites as you said, but be there for the people, and yes I understand,
politics has to be within the people in a sense.
So, can we say, in memetic terms, that politics is not to blame, but we
are !? I can agree on that, but how do we change it !?
Regards,
Kenneth
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