Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id EAA25176 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Fri, 19 Apr 2002 04:34:20 +0100 X-Originating-IP: [209.240.222.132] From: "Scott Chase" <ecphoric@hotmail.com> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: RE: media violence Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 23:28:16 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: <F46bkcLsGEpok0aG1Df0000140d@hotmail.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Apr 2002 03:28:16.0911 (UTC) FILETIME=[3EBEC9F0:01C1E752] Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>From: Vincent Campbell <v.p.campbell@stir.ac.uk>
>Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>To: "'memetics@mmu.ac.uk'" <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
>Subject: RE: media violence
>Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 15:30:05 +0100
>
> <I guess it comes down to which ox is being gored. After seeing
>first hand
> > the impact of cigarette smoking I'm kinda for a lot of the recent
>battling
> >
> > against the tobacco industry. Russell Crowe's _The Insider_ was a film I
> > could relate to and the ad campaigns I've seen that portray smoking in a
> > not
> > so glamorous light are good (but are they working?).>
> >
> Smoking we've touched on before, and there are differing trends
>around the world, often contradictory to what media messages about smoking
>are out there. But there's a reasonable body of research that shows
>problems with public health communication effectiveness, so I doubt movies
>like 'The Insider' will have much of an impact, but who knows. In part the
>problem of media effects, is not that there aren't any, but that too many
>people think they know what they are, how they work, and how to achieve
>particular effects with particular strategies, and they all seem rather
>flawed in that assumption IMHO.
>
> <I've heard grubmblings
> > that make me get the impression that the fast food industry might be a
>new
> >
> > target. I'm sort of mixed on this front. I've partaken of the greasy
> > burger
> > in the past (though I've managed a year sans red meat so I'm kinda proud
> > of
> > myself). I guess there's a point to be made about obesity and the
>typical
> > US-ian diet (even beyond fast-food). Those Jared ads by Subway are sort
>of
> > a
> > step in the right direction IMO, away from the greasy-burger charbroil
> > stuff. To digress even further, I've switched to soy milk, which is
>really
> >
> > good after the initial shock to the palate.>
> >
> See, I can't be doing with soy milk substitutes- they just don't
>work with tea...
>
>
I'm starting to think soy products are the real deal and cattle ooze
derivatives are ersatz. Soy milk goes better with coffee. I've tried
cultured soy, with is pseudo-yogurt. It's probably an acquired taste ;-)
I stiil eat poultry (a staple) and fish and some lean ham once in a while. I
haven't clucked for a chicken "whopper" yet.
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