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Dear Wade,
> > Of course you can. It's just false. :-)
>
> Yup, which is why I said concepts about gravity are memes if and only if
> they are false.
>
> > The fact, ahem, is, "Some concepts are backed up by the entire
> > universe."
>
> Yes, if they are true concepts, duh.... But, why (oh why?) substitute
> 'concept' for 'fact' in the first place? Once a concept is shown to be
> factual, it is a fact, ain't it? Time to make it one.
>
> This useless and insipid term substitution, when one and the correct one
> will do, is a great source of annoyance to me.
>
Well, Wade, it has to do with your insistence that concepts are memes
only if they are false. Why you take that view is a mystery to me. But
only a minor source of annoyance. ;-)
So tell me, why do you say that memes must not be true?
In terms of fitness, I would think that truth would make a meme more
fit, in general.
Best,
Bill
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