Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id DAA21972 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Thu, 18 Apr 2002 03:00:46 +0100 X-Originating-IP: [209.240.222.132] From: "Scott Chase" <ecphoric@hotmail.com> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: RE: Bush's War on Terrorism Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 21:54:41 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: <F2079SLkn2yJs15S3rw00008265@hotmail.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Apr 2002 01:54:41.0747 (UTC) FILETIME=[016F0230:01C1E67C] Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>From: "Lawrence DeBivort" <debivort@umd5.umd.edu>
>Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>To: <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
>Subject: RE: Bush's War on Terrorism
>Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 19:04:53 -0400
>
>Thanks for the thoughtful post, Scott. What is the Weinberger doctrine?
>
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/military/force/
Scan down on this URL and you'll see the basics pretty much as I recall
them. The W.D. might be an unattainable ideal for many cases where military
force is contemplated, but it's a good starting guideline to use before
getting involved in something serious.
Overall I'd exclude solely humanitarian and peacekeeping missions from the
scope of U.S. military involvement. That should be the job of the U.N. IMO.
The Gulf War pretty much passed the litmus test where Somalia failed. I
remember when troops were being sent there during the last part of Bush the
Elder's term and I thought the move was a mistake (with the W.D. in mind at
the time). Part of me thought Bush was trying to leave Clinton with an
instant headache to deal with, but I'm probably wrong.
Sending U.S. troops to be "peacekeepers" between Israelis and Palestinians
would be a serious mistake. The military is, to be blunt, for breaking
things and killing people, and I can see no clear reason for doing either in
that insoluble conflict.
>
> > I watched "Politically Incorrect" with Bill Maher last night and
> > have come
> > to the concusion that we in the US do have a deep set tendency to
> > view that
> > conflict through the lenses of pro-Israeli sentiment. It's hard for us
>to
> > see the Palestinian POV. It seemed from some of Dubya's rhetoric and
> > Powell's stances that the US would have a more neutral or even-handed
> > approach. If we can't be neutral, this matter needs to rest
> > solely with the
> > U.N. The US does NOT need to commit our forces to that region as
> > peacekeepers. I don't think we've got the necessary objectivity, plus
>I'm
> > for commitments more in line with the Weinberger doctrine.
>t
>
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