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The people who are preaching "it" DON'T call it 'shia'. Please look at
Armstrong's book, or look up "shi'i" in an encyclopedia, or do something to
find out what shi'ism is. It has nothing to do with the "it" that you are
so worried about.
As to "them," they are aren't out to kill us; they are out to get our
attention. Unfortunately, all too many people in this country have yet to
learn what it is we are supposed to be paying attention to...
Lawrence
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> From: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk [mailto:fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk]On Behalf
> Of Grant Callaghan
> Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 7:15 PM
> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
> Subject: RE: Bush's War on Terrorism
>
>
> >
> >This is NOT 'shia", Grant. Where in the world are you getting this from?
> >Read Karen Armstrong's THE BATTLE FOR GOD for a nice intro. to
> Muslim (and
> >Jewish and Christian) fundamentalism.
> >
> >Lawrence
> >
> > > accomplishing their goals. One side worships science, technology and
> > > democracy. The other wants to impose shia on the rest of the
> > > world. Shia
> > > (cutting off the hands of theives, stoning women for adultery, killing
> > > people who don't believe in your religion in its most recent
> > > interpretation)
> > > is not something the rest of the world is going to accept.
> >
> If the people who are preaching it call it "shia" (and I'll admit I don't
> have a reference handy to make sure I've spelled it properly)
> then to them
> that's what it is. What we call a thing is how we see it.
>
> The Afghans, the Iranians, the Saudis have all engaged in this
> behavior and
> are promoting it as the way of God. If other muslims don't
> believe in it,
> that doesn't make it less of a real threat from those who practice and
> promote it. Not all muslims want to crash airplanes into our
> buildings, but
> that doesn't mean we don't have to watch out for those who do. The new
> "word of God" as preached in all the schools sending people to
> fight in the
> war against Americans may not be the "true" word of God, but it
> is the word
> against which we have to defend and protect ourselves. Call it what you
> will. It is out there in the muslim community and it is growing in
> popularity. Al qaeda members came from America, Britain,
> Pakistan, Arabia,
> Malaysia, Yemen, etc., etc. It's not just in muslim countries where this
> new gospel is being preached. If they weren't out to kill us, we could
> probably ignore it. Since they are, we can't.
>
> Grant
>
>
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