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<Vincent- I hope to hear you say that, (perhaps because someone in
some
> position of authority and not in any position of expertise made you),
> you've done some research or analysis of so-called 'subliminal' effects,
> and found those claims bogus.
>
> Not that there is not a very interesting set of studies about 'under'
> perceptions, but, to my knowledge, all claims of 'subliminal'
> advertising or learning are shams?>
>
Unfortunately not, although there is a fantastic dismantling of the
claims about subliminal advertising which I think I've mentioned before on
the list in 'The Skeptical Inquirer' which is available online, from a guy
who gave evidence in the Judas Priest trial. They indeed show how ideas
about subliminal advertising are rubbish and cite a lot of evidence to
support their analysis.
For those on the list with Richard Brodie's book, compare the above
article with his section on subliminal advertising. Subliminal advertising
is a red herring for memetics, IMHO.
People don't even take in much of what is super-liminal in media
content, let alone anything else (see for example Barrie Gunter's 1987 book
'Poor Reception' which reviews the mountain of data showing poor recall of
broadcast news the world over).
Vincent
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