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Good morning, Grant
Please read your own questiont. First you talked about 'the people,' now
you merely give instances of [some] people, and attribute to these the
larger proposition. Talk about stereotyped generalization!
By your own redefinition of your question, you would have to include the US,
UK, France, Mexico, Japan, Argentina, Brazil, El Salvador, Serbia, etc. etc.
as countryies lacking a "contented and peaceful people." So what is your
point, then? Other than to express anti-semiticism and bash Muslims?
Yes, I do imagine we live in different worlds, and read different things. I
read books, I actually study issues before shooting my mouth off.
Grant, have you ever travelled to the Muslim world? If so, for how long?
Ever lived in a Muslim country? Have you ever read a book about the Muslim
world (and I don't mean one of those flashy trash books that were hurried to
the book stands post Sept. 11)? If so, please tell us. If so, a quiz will
follow.
Lawrence
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk [mailto:fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk]On Behalf
> Of Grant Callaghan
> Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 12:06 AM
> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
> Subject: RE: Bush's War on Terrorism
>
>
> >Subject: RE: Bush's War on Terrorism
> >Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 23:04:38 -0400
> >
> > > Grant Callaghan:
> > > A muslim country where the people are
> > > not dreaming
> > > about killing each other or someone else. I don't know of
> one. Do you?
> >
> >
> >Kuwait. Yemen. Tunisia. Morocco. Syria. Turkey. Jordan. Saudi
> Arabia. Oman.
> >Uinted Arab Emirates. Libya. Egypt.
> >
> Obviously we read different newspapers. The 9/11 terrorists and a goodly
> number of the Al Quaeda are from Saudi Arabia. Egypt harbors many people
> who have committed numerous murders in the name of Allah. Turkey has the
> Kurds. Jordan has the Palestinians. Wasn't it in Yemen that the
> U.S. lost
> a ship? All of the places you mentioned are in the midst of turmoil and
> have people trying to kill each other or trying to kill others
> for religious
> reasons. Kuwait, maybe, although you could say they were recently at war
> with Iraq. They certainly don't harbor any good will toward
> Sadam Hussein.
> And before the invasion there was a bit of discontent among the people.
> Saudi Arabia also harbors people who killed a goodly number of
> Americans who
> were protecting the ruling families. I can't really say you've made your
> point here. A large number of Saudis living in England fled
> there to escape
> harsh treatment by their government. And Lybia -- considering
> the amount of
> mischief it does in the world and the countries around it, you've
> got to be
> kidding.
>
> If those are your idea of contented and peaceful people, we live in
> different worlds.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Grant
>
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