Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id FAA19041 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Wed, 17 Apr 2002 05:34:09 +0100 Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 14:28:33 +1000 Subject: Re: Bush's War on Terrorism Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed From: John Wilkins <wilkins@wehi.edu.au> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <LAW2-F133FutJLtosJ30000063c@hotmail.com> Message-Id: <93B1D858-51BB-11D6-A4B9-003065B4D1F0@wehi.edu.au> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.481) Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
On Wednesday, April 17, 2002, at 02:06 PM, Grant Callaghan wrote:
>> Subject: RE: Bush's War on Terrorism
>> Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 23:04:38 -0400
>>
>> > Grant Callaghan:
>> > A muslim country where the people are
>> > not dreaming
>> > about killing each other or someone else. I don't know of one. Do
>> you?
>>
>>
>> Kuwait. Yemen. Tunisia. Morocco. Syria. Turkey. Jordan. Saudi Arabia.
>> Oman.
>> Uinted Arab Emirates. Libya. Egypt.
>>
> Obviously we read different newspapers. The 9/11 terrorists and a goodly
> number of the Al Quaeda are from Saudi Arabia. Egypt harbors many people
> who have committed numerous murders in the name of Allah. Turkey has the
> Kurds. Jordan has the Palestinians. Wasn't it in Yemen that the U.S.
> lost a ship? All of the places you mentioned are in the midst of turmoil
> and have people trying to kill each other or trying to kill others for
> religious reasons. Kuwait, maybe, although you could say they were
> recently at war with Iraq. They certainly don't harbor any good will
> toward Sadam Hussein. And before the invasion there was a bit of
> discontent among the people. Saudi Arabia also harbors people who killed
> a goodly number of Americans who were protecting the ruling families. I
> can't really say you've made your point here. A large number of Saudis
> living in England fled there to escape harsh treatment by their
> government. And Lybia -- considering the amount of mischief it does in
> the world and the countries around it, you've got to be kidding.
>
> If those are your idea of contented and peaceful people, we live in
> different worlds.
>
>
I read you as implying that it was a national pasttime to "dream of
killing each other or someone else". On that interpretation, the countries
listed are pretty much moderate. But on the interpretation you give next,
the US and a whole lot of "western" (ie, Christian) countries come up as
pretty bloodthirsty places to be as well, so perhaps you'd like to revise
the way you set the criteria.
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