Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id OAA17498 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Tue, 16 Apr 2002 14:58:30 +0100 X-Originating-IP: [68.6.177.209] From: "Grant Callaghan" <grantc4@hotmail.com> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: RE: Thoughts and Perceptions Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 06:52:24 -0700 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: <LAW2-F1208fmahtCBmT000074e6@hotmail.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Apr 2002 13:52:25.0097 (UTC) FILETIME=[F05D3F90:01C1E54D] Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 08:37:51 +0100
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> >> (the "gravity" meme, for example, would be shall we say difficult
>to
> >> free
> >> oneself of)
>
> <Hmmm. Are physical qualities of the universe memes at all?
>
> > I don't think so.>
> >
> I don't think so either, but some regard the idea/term 'gravity' as
>a meme (I was just humouring the mindmemers).
>
> Vincent
>
IMO the force we call gravity is not a meme but the concept of gravity is.
Especially when we use it to turn a water wheel or overcome it with the
curve of an air foil or calculate the trajectory of an artillery shell. It
becomes a meme when we can add it to the tools we use to change our
environment. The fact that we can use it, just as we use the sharpness of a
rock, is what makes it a meme. The meme is our concept of what gravity is
and does.
Grant
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