Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id LAA07462 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Thu, 11 Apr 2002 11:08:40 +0100 Message-ID: <570E2BEE7BC5A34684EE5914FCFC368C10FC13@fillan.stir.ac.uk> From: Vincent Campbell <v.p.campbell@stir.ac.uk> To: "'memetics@mmu.ac.uk'" <memetics@mmu.ac.uk> Subject: RE: Fwd: 'Creationist' school has evolution debate Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 10:46:03 +0100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Filter-Info: UoS MailScan 0.1 [D 1] X-MailScanner: Found to be clean Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
Nooooooo! You've written his name- that's bound to bring him back!!!!!! Or
is he like the Candyman and you hav to say his name three times?
Vincent
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> From: rrecchia@mail.clarityconnect.com
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> Don't do it Richard! It will be like having a conversation with Chris
> Lofting!
>
> Ray Recchia
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wade Smith <wade_smith@harvard.edu>
> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk, Skeptic List <skeptic@listproc.hcf.jhu.edu>
> Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 12:23:00 -0400
> Subject: Fwd: 'Creationist' school has evolution debate
>
> > 'Creationist' school has evolution debate
> >
> > Tania Branigan
> > Tuesday April 9, 2002
> > The Guardian
> >
> > http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,3604,681133,00.html
> >
> > The school at the centre of the row over creationism in
> > education is inviting one of its chief critics to speak to its
> > students about evolution, it has emerged.
> >
> > Sir Peter Vardy, the multimillionaire entrepreneur who donated
> > £2m to found Emmanuel city technology college in Gateshead, and
> > who remains director of its board, wants Richard Dawkins to take
> > part in a debate.
> >
> > Emmanuel has been criticised since the Guardian revealed last
> > month that lectures given by its staff, suggested evolution was
> > a "faith position" and urged teachers to "counter [its] false
> > doctrines".
> >
> > At the time, Professor Dawkins, an authority on evolution,
> > wrote: "Any science teacher who denies the world is billions (or
> > even millions) of years old is teaching children a preposterous,
> > mind-shrinking falsehood. These men disgrace the honourable
> > profession of teacher."
> >
> > But the two men have been corresponding privately since the
> > dispute broke out and are now planning to meet. Sir Peter said:
> > "We are quite open to talking to anybody. I would like to have a
> > debate at Emmanuel college for the students to hear and I'll be
> > asking him to take part."
> >
> > He added: "I am not a creationist and neither is Emmanuel
> > college. We have guys who do believe in young earth [theories],
> > but we also have atheists and agnostics and folks that believe
> > in the old earth _ What we seek to do is present all the views
> > of both creation and evolution."
> >
> > But in a lecture, the school's head of science, Steven Layfield,
> > urged Christian teachers to "show the superiority" of
> > creationist theories.
> >
> > He added that they should "note every occasion when an
> > evolutionary/old-earth paradigm [millions or billions of years]
> > is explicitly mentioned or implied and courteously point out the
> > fallibility of the statement". Most scientists agree that life
> > on earth is around four billion years old.
> >
> > "I'm keen to meet Sir Peter and no doubt the idea of a debate
> > will be one of many things we discuss when we meet up," Prof
> > Dawkins said.
> >
> >
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