Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id FAA10223 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Thu, 28 Mar 2002 05:37:08 GMT X-Originating-IP: [209.240.222.132] From: "Scott Chase" <ecphoric@hotmail.com> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: Re: speaking of books - how about Gould's? Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 00:31:08 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: <F161hGh57OeZxdGLyNM0000ddf6@hotmail.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Mar 2002 05:31:09.0023 (UTC) FILETIME=[C3C74EF0:01C1D619] Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>From: "Scott Chase" <ecphoric@hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>Subject: Re: speaking of books - how about Gould's?
>Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 23:41:43 -0500
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>>From: Ray Recchia <rrecchia@mail.clarityconnect.com>
>>Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>>To: Memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>>Subject: speaking of books - how about Gould's?
>>Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 19:50:59 -0500
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>>I've been very busy lately so I don't have enough time to grab Steven Jay
>>Gould's new1400 page opus "The Structure of Evolutionary Theory". He has
>>been a big critic of memes and I was wondering if there was anything in
>>there on the subject.
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>"Memes" and "memetics" aren't listed in the index, for what that's worth.
>"Evolutionary psychology" warrants a several page span in the index. Just
>looking at one of these pages I notice Gould credits Nietzsche (and Darwin)
>with the dichotomy between historical origin and current utility. This
>could
>be interesting *in itself* (or apparently if you're a Kantian). I've been
>too busy delving into an onslaught of Durkheim and Levy-Bruhl to get into
>Gould's book yet (aside from a little index driven sneak peeking to whet my
>appetite).
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>It seems that Durkheim even touched a bit on a contrast of origin and
>utility in the first part of Chapter 4 "Rules for the Explanation of Social
>Facts" of his book _The Rules of Sociological Method_.
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Ooops, make that Chapter 5. Dang-blasted Roman numerals got me.
As an addendum, doing another index driving pre-flipping, Gould says some
stuff regarding Durkheim that is directly relevant to the difference between
historic origin and current utility (a contrast possibily lacking in
Durkheim's work on division of labor?), citing someone named Catton
(apparently as a secondary source on Durkheim). The plot thickens...
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