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>Subject: Re: FW: MD Dawkins on quantum/mysticism convergence
>Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 21:01:43 +0000
>
>Hi Douglas,
>
> > Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 21:57:15 +0000
> > From: Douglas Brooker <dbrooker@clara.co.uk>
> > Subject: Re: FW: MD Dawkins on quantum/mysticism convergence
> >
> > Hi Steve
> >
> > Steve Drew wrote:
> >
> >> The tension between prescriptive and descriptive in the social sciences
>is a
> >> tension between the social and the science to my mind. The social to
> >> interfere and change, and the science to observe, record and interpret.
>how
> >> is this any different from say, genetics?
> >>
> >> BTW, most social scientists i have encountered do not like memetics.
> >>
> >
> > Have any offered any interesting reasons?
>
>Not too sure if they count as interesting, more expected.
>
>I was an undergraduate when i first brought the subject up with some of my
>lecturer's, so they were fairly dismissive.
>
>A part also related to the fact that we are very short on theory,
>practicality and experiments etc (Good job physics and biology weren't
>jacked in at the first hurdle!).
>
>They don't like biology encroaching on their turf if it can be helped.
>
>The final one is the oddest and that it seemed to me to be a fear of the
>mechanistic view that could be implied from it. This was from structural
>functionalists with Marxist theoretical leanings!
>
>Regards
>
>Steve
I would call memetics a science in the process of becoming which is still
searching for its first paradigm.
Grant
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