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Hi Kenneth
> Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 21:05:21 +0100
> From: "Kenneth Van Oost" <Kenneth.Van.Oost@village.uunet.be>
> Subject: Re: Rumsfeld Says....
>
> - ----- Original Message -----
> From: Steve Drew <srdrew_1@hotmail.com>
>> Exactly. Its the memes they have taken on board over time. Unfortunately,
>> once taken on they are dificult to lose. IMO it takes rational decisions
> to
>> make a choice. rational decisions are undermined by the emotional
> attachment
>> that we attach to certain memes.
>
> Hi Steve,
>
> Exactly ! Our own funny moods about zionism, semitism and racism are
> blocking our ways_ the historical events of WO II makes us emotional
> attached/ bounded with the Jews and thus with Israel ( not with the Pales-
> tinians) in such a way that we don 't dare to be against Jews.
> And by the way, here atleast in Belgium, it is by law forbidden to be
> anti- Jews or to be anti- semitic. The government is choosing the memes
> for us !
>
> And, no offence intented ( this is hot issue), in that way, keeping the
> historical events in mind, we don 't dare to point our finger towards
> Israel and condemn them.... and I don 't mean some obscure resolution
> in the VN which will be blocked by the US !
>
> Regards,
>
> Kenneth
What offence?
When Israeli troops shoot women and children, investigation must follow, and
it should be shouted out loud. This applies to any country that uses
violence indiscriminately against non-combatants. That means in this case
both Israel and the Palestinians, though it applies to many places in the
world.
I read an interesting article in The New York Times about how the deaths of
muslims in Israel are reported compared to the deaths of muslims in India or
Iraq, wAich suggests that it has a lot to do with the relative powerlesnes
of the arab world compared to Israel.
www.nytimes.com/2002/03/06/opinion/06FRIE.html
regards
Steve
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