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Hi Jeremy
> Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2002 14:14:14 +1100
> From: Jeremy Bradley <jeremyb@nor.com.au>
> Subject: RE: Rumsfeld Says...
>> The cave art i referred to was in the region of 40,000 years ago, and
>> presumably painted by the ancestors of the Aborigines, and pre dates
>> European cave art. I.E. its is the oldest human cave art. As i said i can't
>> access the file with the reference in at the moment, unfortunately.
>>
>> regards
>>
>> Steve
>
>
> Great Steve, send me what you can when you can on this one, tho' I have a
> PC. Many of the caves were, and/or are, used to record life and significant
> events. In some of these caves paintings span many thousands of years. In
> having some 'art' translated by an elder, he showed where he had added
> several pictograms himself over the course of his life. They were woven
> into the tapestry of his entire culture.
> Jeremy
Sorry but i can't access the files at the moment. All i can recall is that
it could have been in New Scientist sometime in the last 3 years.
Unfortunately i am not a subscriber and can't afford the yearly index. I did
have a bit of a root through my back copies but it will be a long time
before i can go through them all - 150 odd copies. I did find one article,
however on the (possibly) first depiction of shamans in human art in
Australia with estimates of age ranging from 4000 years Before Present, to
as much as 17,000years BP. From your point of view, they actually have no
surviving legacy and the style is unrelated to any known Aboriginal art.
The art is in the Kimberley region and is know as the the Bradshaw
formations after the rancher that discovered them. most are uncatalogued.
This was in New Scientist 19th May, 2001, No. 2291.
2 websites, which i have not checked are cited and these are;
www.BradshawFoundation.com
www.bradshaw.dk
Sorry i could not be more of a help.
regards
Steve
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