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>From: "Philip Jonkers" <philipjonkers@prodigy.net>
>Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>To: <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
>Subject: Re: Example of an aggresive irrational meme
>Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 17:22:36 -0900
>
>
>Phil:
> > >Also memes have `sex' in your head too. There also memes interact with
> > >other
> > >memes
> > >to produce new ones. This is what abstract or creative thinking is all
> > >about
> > >for instance.
> > >There is where the parallel with biology ends of course.
>Scott:
> > I'm still having trouble seeing where the parallel begins ;-)
>
>Let me put it this way then: in biology gene-hosts copulate to produce new
>genes
>and gene-plexes. Analogously, in culture meme-hosts combine to produce
>new memes and meme-plexes.
>
>
In sexual reproduction is the novelty that results in the genes or in their
allelic combination overall? I inherited alleles (variant gene forms) from
my parents. Were these alleles springing forth de novo within me then? And
what new genes would I have relative to my parents?
Now I may carry a unique combination of alleles I suppose. OTOH, a smidgen
of parental mutations may have made it into me, mostly neutral or
deleterious, but maybe a *few* advantageous ones. Were these mutations I now
carry, say silent point mutations, a result of the sexual union?
I'm still trying to hash out what is implicit in your saltational leap from
sexual copulation to social combination. It's gotta be more than a word play
on intercourse (sexual or social) BTW.
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